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No, Jesus didn't say that few would be saved (He said few would be able to enter - that is a different thing). Why do you keep saying that and avoiding the question that Romans 5 says many will be saved?
Jesus said make every effort to enter through the narrow gate. What effort did you put forth to enter in ?
You know what the answer to this is ? You have to give everything you possess up. That means every single belief that you have accumulated in your whole life alienated in your mind from the life of God, because you cannot take any of that with you through the narrow gate. Those beliefs are your riches and those riches are all too many many to fit through the eye of a needle, never mind a wide gate.
No, Jesus didn't say that few would be saved (He said few would be able to enter - that is a different thing). Why do you keep saying that and avoiding the question that Romans 5 says many will be saved?
Because we’re talking about what Jesus said on this subject.
Rom 5:18, Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
The fact that it is a free gift actually means that it must be received in order to be appropriated.
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No, Jesus didn't say that few would be saved (He said few would be able to enter - that is a different thing). Why do you keep saying that and avoiding the question that Romans 5 says many will be saved?
So, there will be some who are saved but who will not enter in? Many will be saved but few will enter in?
What happens to those who are saved but do not enter in?
They do not enter into the kingdom of heaven; how then are they saved?
Universalism is a false way because God has created some for wrath, the vessels of wrath, and then God created some whom Christ died for, to never see/experience His wrath. Rom 9:21-22
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
1 Thess 1:10
And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
1 Thess 5:9-10
9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
Rom 5:18, Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
The fact that it is a free gift actually means that it must be received in order to be appropriated.
Romans 5:19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
It is not through 'receiving'. It is through the obedience of one men (Christ) that the many will be made righteous.
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So, there will be some who are saved but who will not enter in? Many will be saved but few will enter in?
What happens to those who are saved but do not enter in?
They do not enter into the kingdom of heaven; how then are they saved?
Again I ask, if many are made righteous, why do you think it is only 'few' are saved?
And yes even those who do not enter the Kingdom of God at this time will be saved later.
Many are called but few are chosen. Few will enter. What do you think the few will be doing? Hanging out in heaven peacefully while the rest of humanity is tortured forever? NO.
What is the Kingdom of God?
"Did you realize that God is choosing very few people, who have been faithful to the end, to inherit His reign for the purpose of becoming PASTORS to the entire world? Just as God chooses shepherds (pastors) in the Body of Christ, God will be using the Kingdom through His Son to be SHEPHERDS under Christ over all Creation who are groaning to be "delivered into the glorious freedom of the Children of God." Remember: "the saints shall judge the world." They will do that with the purpose to break them all down, so they can receive the food of humility.
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Romans 8:18-24
For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now.
1 Corinthians 6:2-3 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Don't you realize that we will judge angels?
Revelation 2:26-27
And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I (Jesus) give power over the nations: And he shall rule (POIMANO) them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
POIMANO - is to shepherd.
God is calling a few to inherit his Kingdom; they are given a very high calling - to bring in the harvest of everyone else.
I'm asking you why does Romans 5 say many (all) will be made righteous? You are avoiding the question. You think many = few?
There are few, who, in seeking out the truth, actually find the truth.
Others have the truth shoved in their faces and there are many who will receive the gospel that way. They did not seek it and find it; they are not of the few who will do that.
Nevertheless they will be saved because the gospel was brought to them (even shoved down their throats).
Romans 5:19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.
It is not through 'receiving'. It is through the obedience of one man <fify> (Christ) that the many will be made righteous.
It is through "receiving" (John 1:12).
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