Coronavirus in Massachusetts (sale, pollution, bills)

[timberline742]

Originally Posted by id77

Nobody’s going to do a trial where they take half the of the severe cases and send them home, so getting good data on this is going to be very difficult. That said, most of the deaths aren’t happening at home, which suggests that even with intervention people are still dying.

This only indicates that people with milder symptoms aren't being admitted.

Originally Posted by id77

Again, we won’t know until we can go back and crunch the numbers afterwards, but those suggest to me we’re not affecting the mortality rate in any meaningful way.

It doesn't suggest this at all. I have no idea how you made that leap.

[jayrandom]

Originally Posted by Arya Stark

First off you're rewriting history again. NYC and California went under lock down at about the same time.

But almost everyplace they test they have cases. No matter how remote or when they started social distancing. That is consistent with we all have it anyway.

It's the time relative to when infections were starting that's important. Italy and Wuhan went into full lockdown well before both, but it was way too late for them.

And there's a huge difference between "it's everywhere" and "we all have it". It's definitely everywhere, but the infection rates vary considerably by geography. "We all have it" doesn't can't explain why some place have lots of people dying and some places have relatively few people dying.

[porterhouse]

Originally Posted by btownboss4

Yes the Bridges would be closer to non residents travelers.

Sorry you can’t use you’re 2nd home on the Cape I can’t do things I want to do right now.

I personally don't have a 2nd home on the Cape. However those who have them certainly can use them as this petition is currently just a pipe dream getting too much media attention.

Also, PS, it's too late. Friends on the Cape, Islands and other areas report the New Yorkers arrived en masse weeks ago.

[sawyer2]

Just wait until all the snowbirds in FLA panic and start to flee North/West when the cases spiral out of control because of DeSantis' inaction

[btownboss4]

Originally Posted by porterhouse

I personally don't have a 2nd home on the Cape. However those who have them certainly can use them as this petition is currently just a pipe dream getting too much media attention.

Also, PS, it's too late. Friends on the Cape, Islands and other areas report the New Yorkers arrived en masse weeks ago.

They shouldn’t be able to right now that’s the point. They are directly endangering the residents of the Cape whose medial infrastructure is designed around the 216,000 full time residents not its summer population.

[redplum33]

Originally Posted by mp775

The petition is to close the bridges to seasonal residents and tourists, not to blow them up. From the article: "...only year-round residents, medical personnel, and delivery trucks carrying essential supplies, should be allowed there."

Thank you.

[redplum33]

Originally Posted by id77

Again, we won’t know until we can go back and crunch the numbers afterwards, but those suggest to me we’re not affecting the mortality rate in any meaningful way.

id77, the top infectious disease experts in the world have predicted the following:

100,000 to 240,000 deaths (with intervention)

1,500,000 to 2,200,00 deaths (without intervention)

Why do you think you know better than the leading experts? Seriously, WTF are you thinking?

[AtkinsonDan]

Originally Posted by jayrandom

"We all have it" doesn't can't explain why some place have lots of people dying and some places have relatively few people dying.

At this point I believe air pollution, relative humidity, average air temperatures and the popularity of smoking and vaping could impact how severely this virus affects people in any given location.

[id77]

Originally Posted by redplum33

id77, the top infectious disease experts in the world have predicted the following:

100,000 to 240,000 deaths (with intervention)

1,500,000 to 2,200,00 deaths (without intervention)

Why do you think you know better than the leading experts? Seriously, WTF are you thinking?

Time will tell, and I’m no expert, but Im thinking we’re going to get closer to the non-intervention numbers, even with intervention. I’m operating under the expectation every last person will be exposed to the virus at some point; maybe in a month or maybe in two years. I do not see this disease as something that’s going away.

[jayrandom]

Originally Posted by AtkinsonDan

At this point I believe air pollution, relative humidity, average air temperatures and the popularity of smoking and vaping could impact how severely this virus affects people in any given location.

So you subscribe to her theory that it's been everywhere since December and seems to progressing in exponential fashion across the world because of air pollution, relative humidity, average air temperatures, and the popularity of smoking? Everyone in Wuhan took up smoking in December, and Italy took up smoking in late February, and then New York took up smoking in March?