Coronavirus in Massachusetts (air pollution, top, humidity)

[BostonMike7]

Originally Posted by TheGoodTheBadTheUgly

God forbid If we head into a depression..the corona virus will be the least of our problems!

Isn't this fear mongering in itself?

[TheGoodTheBadTheUgly]

Isn't this fear mongering in itself?

No it’s just reality...you can’t shut down the country...it’s unsustainable!

[Bridge781]

It’s not like a guarantee that everyone who heads to the cape will get coronavirus or bring it with them.

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by TheGoodTheBadTheUgly

No it’s just reality...you can’t shut down the country...it’s unsustainable!

Of course it's not sustainable long term. Especially in a fiercely individualistic society such as the US (vs. for example, most other Western democracies which lean socialist). Short term pain, long term gain. The idea of the shutdown all along, has been to avoid overburdening the health care system, especially the hospitals. If that happens, I hope you realize it affects everyone who has a serious health condition, not just the Covid-19 sufferers.

Moderator: shouldn't this thread be merged with the other one?

[id77]

Originally Posted by jayrandom

Do you have any references to back up the notion that mortality is independent of intervention? That’s a pretty big conclusion. The mortality rates are significantly lower than the hospitalization rates.

Nobody’s going to do a trial where they take half the of the severe cases and send them home, so getting good data on this is going to be very difficult. That said, most of the deaths aren’t happening at home, which suggests that even with intervention people are still dying. When broken across age groups, the mortality rate in the US isn’t that far off from other nations (Italy’s rate is much higher, but they also have a much higher elderly population and A few other differences). Again, we won’t know until we can go back and crunch the numbers afterwards, but those suggest to me we’re not affecting the mortality rate in any meaningful way. This makes sense given we also have no known cure or proven treatment other than managing symptoms in patients.

That is, I don’t think we’re doing anything in a hospital to thwart Covid in individuals, but rather we’re helping them be more comfortable while they fight it on their own. The rates are what they are as, while symptoms are severe, those who survive do so because their bodies fought and won, not because of drugs or machines.

If everyone was tested, the rate would drop more as many are asymptomatic.

[porterhouse]

Originally Posted by btownboss4

Should the cities that closed bars suspend property tax on those properties?

Yes, IMO there must be some kind of relief for non essential small businesses.

Originally Posted by AtkinsonDan

They are not losing the rights to own their property. Furthermore, it is not even tourist season yet. If this was a normal year they would not be going to the Cape until May or June.

BS. My friends use their Cape houses year round, for holidays, weekends away, remote work, etc. I have several friend's whose parents live on the cape full time, and the friends have 2nd houses next door. They typically go back and forth. Would they be excepted from this useless and provincial attitude?

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by jayrandom

Compare California (under lockdown early) deaths to NY deaths (under lockdown late).

First off you're rewriting history again. NYC and California went under lock down at about the same time.

But almost everyplace they test they have cases. No matter how remote or when they started social distancing. That is consistent with we all have it anyway.

[scorpio516]

Originally Posted by TheGoodTheBadTheUgly

God forbid If we head into a depression..the corona virus will be the least of our problems!

I don't know about your mental state, but I'm just fine.

Unless you are talking economically, in which "depression" has no definition.

[mp775]

Originally Posted by mdovell

Of course the other thing within this is that if the bridge shuts down how does anything even get to the islands.

The petition is to close the bridges to seasonal residents and tourists, not to blow them up. From the article: "...only year-round residents, medical personnel, and delivery trucks carrying essential supplies, should be allowed there."

[btownboss4]

Originally Posted by porterhouse

Yes, IMO there must be some kind of relief for non essential small businesses.


BS. My friends use their Cape houses year round, for holidays, weekends away, remote work, etc. I have several friend's whose parents live on the cape full time, and the friends have 2nd houses next door. They typically go back and forth. Would they be excepted from this useless and provincial attitude?

Yes the Bridges would be closer to non residents travelers.

Sorry you can’t use you’re 2nd home on the Cape I can’t do things I want to do right now.

You know the Islands between them have 1 ICU bed? Imagine if their population tripled from NYers and Bostonians coming in? It would be a total disaster.