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Old 02-06-2022, 09:55 AM
 
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You have to quit playing the "I believe in scripture and you don't" card. It is the interpretation we disagree over. This is why there are a thousand Christian denominations. Are there verses in the NT you reject? No? Then I hope women remain silent in your church and their heads remained covered the way Paul commanded. There are many other examples. Lastly, I used scripture and prayer (2 years) to confirm UR is the truth. If not, the universe(s) including all that is in it is in a state of suffering forever except for a few in heaven. Does this sound like a sound plan by God to you? Just asking?
Yes, women remain silent in my church and long hair is given to them for a covering (1 Corinthians 11:15).

 
Old 02-06-2022, 10:52 AM
 
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2Ti 3:16, All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17, That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.


Sound doctrine is the teaching of holy scripture.

And of course, in the heart of the born-again believer, there is no way to "correct" sound doctrine so that the believer might believe what is unsound.
You can't use unsound untested scripture to claim that scripture is sound doctrine!!! You have to TEST the Spirit of whatever is claimed to be sound doctrine against the Holy Spirit of agape love and forgiveness described, revealed, and demonstrated by Jesus Christ to know what is sound doctrine. Jesus is our ONLY source of truth about God!

Your reliance on the judgment of others, especially our ignorant primitive ancestors' judgments is not just foolish it is very dangerous to your spiritual development and well-being. You will be sorry for your stubborn reliance on a blind acceptance of their primitive understanding, brother.
 
Old 02-06-2022, 11:10 AM
 
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Universalism is disproved by the following.

Luk 13:23, Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
Luk 13:24, Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
Luk 13:25, When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
Luk 13:26, Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
Luk 13:27, But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.
Luk 13:28, There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
These scripture have absolutely nothing to do with being saved. Peter, after hearing Jesus it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle, he was astounded and said who then can be saved? Jesus told him with God all things are possible. You certainly do not believe all things are possible. You have limits on most things including the death that Jesus destroyed. You're unbelief will not stop God fulfilling his will of all being saved.
 
Old 02-06-2022, 12:02 PM
 
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These scripture have absolutely nothing to do with being saved. Peter, after hearing Jesus it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle, he was astounded and said who then can be saved? Jesus told him with God all things are possible. You certainly do not believe all things are possible. You have limits on most things including the death that Jesus destroyed. You're unbelief will not stop God fulfilling his will of all being saved.
 
Old 02-06-2022, 05:15 PM
 
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You can't use unsound untested scripture to claim that scripture is sound doctrine!!! You have to TEST the Spirit of whatever is claimed to be sound doctrine against the Holy Spirit of agape love and forgiveness described, revealed, and demonstrated by Jesus Christ to know what is sound doctrine. Jesus is our ONLY source of truth about God!

Your reliance on the judgment of others, especially our ignorant primitive ancestors' judgments is not just foolish it is very dangerous to your spiritual development and well-being. You will be sorry for your stubborn reliance on a blind acceptance of their primitive understanding, brother.
2 Timothy 3:16 was in fact tested and its author found to be a true apostle (Revelation 2:2).
 
Old 02-06-2022, 05:17 PM
 
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These scripture have absolutely nothing to do with being saved. Peter, after hearing Jesus it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of the needle, he was astounded and said who then can be saved? Jesus told him with God all things are possible. You certainly do not believe all things are possible. You have limits on most things including the death that Jesus destroyed. You're unbelief will not stop God fulfilling his will of all being saved.
Blind as a bat.

Luk 13:23, Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,

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Old 02-06-2022, 05:26 PM
 
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Blind as a bat.

Luk 13:23, Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,

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Nothing to do with being saved from the hell you believe in.
 
Old 02-06-2022, 05:36 PM
 
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Nothing to do with being saved from the hell you believe in.
Like I said, blind as a bat.

2Co 4:3, But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
2Co 4:4, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
 
Old 02-06-2022, 05:47 PM
 
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Like I said, blind as a bat.

2Co 4:3, But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
2Co 4:4, In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
You don't know what the gospel is if you believe God is imputing sin against the people, which you do.
 
Old 02-06-2022, 06:37 PM
 
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2 Timothy 3:16 was in fact tested and its author found to be a true apostle (Revelation 2:2).
So you mistakenly, blindly, and misguidedly believe to your peril, brother. You have no clue what if any test was ever applied to scripture to determine what is and what is not sound doctrine. You are a very foolish and gullible man.
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