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We are obviously talking about two different judgments. When I said we are judged on Faith alone I meant in relation to salvation ie The First Judgment.
First judgment is about whether or not you will be granted eternal life in heaven with God.
Second judgment is about what you have done. Rewards for good deeds and answering for wrong doings.
The linked article starts off with the assumption that 'works' corresponds to moral charitable living. This is completely erroneous. I have quoted both Jesus and Paul saying very explicitly that it is exactly moral charitable living that is the essence of salvation without regard to faith. The 'works' Paul references are the ritual requirements of Jewish law as is obvious from reading Romans. Paul is arguing that Gentiles are not required to convert to Judaism. Faith is the belief in the promise of a future judgment and reward/punishment, and therefore a reason to live the way Jesus said – morally and charitably.
The idea that nothing counts unless one first 'believes' is contrary to what both Jesus and Paul said, as I have quoted. Is it then the case that anyone who never even heard of Jesus, including those who lived before Jesus have no chance for salvation regardless of how morally and charitably they lived? And also what exactly is meant by believing?
You answered your own question. There is no way I could possibly be mad. You on the other hand could be quite mad (that's not even the right word) if you happen to be wrong.
Nice attempt at avoidance. Twist and turn all you want, but still don't be mad (or angry, since you don't like your own word mad) when you find that your "beliefs" are not in accordance with the facts on this subject.
You claim that you could not be "mad" yet continue to insist on your self proclaimed beliefs are the only possibility of truth. Insisting that your naive beliefs are the only truth. Your hypocrisy is showing and leading you to unprovable claims and dismissal of any other thought.
Yeah good luck getting a proper response, this guy likes to deflect and has the totalitarian attitude that he's right and everyone else is wrong. Perfect example of a raving lunatic fundamentalist.
Yeah good luck getting a proper response, this guy likes to deflect and has the totalitarian attitude that he's right and everyone else is wrong. Perfect example of a raving lunatic fundamentalist.
Yes I have noticed the same pattern among many posters here in the Christianity forum.
Think about it. If Ahura Mazda (the God of Zoroastrianism) is the One True God, then worshipping the false Yahweh god will make Ahura Mazda pretty angry, no?
What happens if you die and have to face the wrath of Ahura Mazda for worshipping a false god?
The linked article starts off with the assumption that 'works' corresponds to moral charitable living. This is completely erroneous. I have quoted both Jesus and Paul saying very explicitly that it is exactly moral charitable living that is the essence of salvation without regard to faith. The 'works' Paul references are the ritual requirements of Jewish law as is obvious from reading Romans. Paul is arguing that Gentiles are not required to convert to Judaism. Faith is the belief in the promise of a future judgment and reward/punishment, and therefore a reason to live the way Jesus said – morally and charitably.
The idea that nothing counts unless one first 'believes' is contrary to what both Jesus and Paul said, as I have quoted. Is it then the case that anyone who never even heard of Jesus, including those who lived before Jesus have no chance for salvation regardless of how morally and charitably they lived? And also what exactly is meant by believing?
Nope, if you reject Jesus / God then it doesn't matter what or how many good deeds or works you have done.
Think about it. If Ahura Mazda (the God of Zoroastrianism) is the One True God, then worshipping the false Yahweh god will make Ahura Mazda pretty angry, no?
What happens if you die and have to face the wrath of Ahura Mazda for worshipping a false god?
What did Ahura Mazda say will happen to unbelievers?
Nice attempt at avoidance. Twist and turn all you want, but still don't be mad (or angry, since you don't like your own word mad) when you find that your "beliefs" are not in accordance with the facts on this subject.
You claim that you could not be "mad" yet continue to insist on your self proclaimed beliefs are the only possibility of truth. Insisting that your naive beliefs are the only truth. Your hypocrisy is showing and leading you to unprovable claims and dismissal of any other thought.
No avoidance at all. It is simply physically impossible for me to be mad/angry or have any such feeling after I die if their is no afterlife. So your question is not even possible under such hypothetical scenario.
No, never said my beliefs are the only possible truth. Anyone's beliefs can be true. However, I simply choose to place my "bet" with Christianity.
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Perfect example of a raving lunatic fundamentalist.
