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Old 01-27-2015, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Hickville USA
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Was that before or after the Bible?

The Bible is clear, Faith and Faith alone will allow people to inherit the Kingdom of God.

Question is not reasonable.
WOW dude or dudette, what is it that you believe exactly?
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Old 01-27-2015, 04:22 PM
 
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Sorry, no. Roughly 2/3 of Christianity - all the flavors of Catholicism plus some Protestants - believe that it is the avoidance of sin and repentance of sins committed, with restitution as possible, that allow entrance to heaven. Sola Fide is not Biblical. The phrase 'faith alone' does not appear anywhere in scriptures except in James where it is stated that it is wrong. The 'works' that Paul refers to in Romans 3 are in fact the rituals and practices of Jewish Law that Paul is arguing do not apply to Gentiles. Several places in the Gospels Jesus is explicitly quoted that it is moral charitable living that leads to eternal life, while downplaying his own role in the matter.

BTW I am not a believer, just knowledgeable about scriptures.
Avoidance of sin and repentance accompanies Faith. Well maybe I should have said, being born again.

However, true Faith would generally lead someone to that.
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Old 01-27-2015, 04:24 PM
 
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WOW dude or dudette, what is it that you believe exactly?
In reference to what exactly?
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Old 01-27-2015, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Sugarmill Woods , FL
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if god wants people to know he exists why not just show himself?
or at least send one of his representatives (angels) to appear before man?
to leave no doubt in anyone's mind that he is real? what is he afraid of?

that way no one can have any doubt. because as it stands there is still
not one shred of proof god exists beyond people's imagination and superstition.
Probably just shy!
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Hickville USA
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In reference to what exactly?
C'mon don't be coy, what is it you believe? You're part of some sect of religion, that's obvious.
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:13 PM
 
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C'mon don't be coy, what is it you believe? You're part of some sect of religion, that's obvious.

Actually quite the opposite. I have a disdain for organized religion.

I merely am a believer in Christ and try to adhere to the Bible.

Nothing more, nothing less.
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:13 PM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Valid? It is not logical in any sense.

Christianity is founded on FAITH.

If God showed himself there would be no need for FAITH.

The math just doesnt add up.
I'll take MATH over FAITH any day
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:16 PM
 
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I'll take MATH over FAITH any day
Well, don't be mad if you die and go before God and find out that "math" isn't worth a whole lot.

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Old 01-27-2015, 05:19 PM
 
Location: The land where cats rule
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Well, don't be mad if you die and go before God and find out that "math" isn't worth a whole lot.

Sure, if you won't be mad (you can't) if you die and discover that there is no god. At that point, your belief is even more worthless.
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Old 01-27-2015, 05:23 PM
 
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Sure, if you won't be mad (you can't) if you die and discover that there is no god. At that point, your belief is even more worthless.
You answered your own question. There is no way I could possibly be mad. You on the other hand could be quite mad (that's not even the right word) if you happen to be wrong.
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