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If God showed himself there would be no need for FAITH.
The math just doesnt add up.
Sure, because there is , at present, no other way.
Not necessary founded on though, since supposedly Jesus appeared after his death.
Therefore, the question is reasonable.
Sure, because there is , at present, no other way.
Not necessary founded on though, since supposedly Jesus appeared after his death.
Therefore, the question is reasonable.
Was that before or after the Bible?
The Bible is clear, Faith and Faith alone will allow people to inherit the Kingdom of God.
The Bible is clear, Faith and Faith alone will allow people to inherit the Kingdom of God.
Which funnily enough is _exactly_ the kind of line you would expect from people selling you charlatan nonsense. And in fact _is_ the kind of line we hear all the time. From snake oil to mediums contacting the dead, they will all specify that it will only work if only you would just believe in it. And if it fails to work for you, well clearly you are at fault for not believing hard enough.
The Bible is clear, Faith and Faith alone will allow people to inherit the Kingdom of God.
Question is not reasonable.
Sorry, no. Roughly 2/3 of Christianity - all the flavors of Catholicism plus some Protestants - believe that it is the avoidance of sin and repentance of sins committed, with restitution as possible, that allow entrance to heaven. Sola Fide is not Biblical. The phrase 'faith alone' does not appear anywhere in scriptures except in James where it is stated that it is wrong. The 'works' that Paul refers to in Romans 3 are in fact the rituals and practices of Jewish Law that Paul is arguing do not apply to Gentiles. Several places in the Gospels Jesus is explicitly quoted that it is moral charitable living that leads to eternal life, while downplaying his own role in the matter.
BTW I am not a believer, just knowledgeable about scriptures.
Sorry, no. Roughly 2/3 of Christianity - all the flavors of Catholicism plus some Protestants - believe that it is the avoidance of sin and repentance of sins committed, with restitution as possible, that allow entrance to heaven. Sola Fide is not Biblical. The phrase 'faith alone' does not appear anywhere in scriptures except in James where it is stated that it is wrong. The 'works' that Paul refers to in Romans 3 are in fact the rituals and practices of Jewish Law that Paul is arguing do not apply to Gentiles. Several places in the Gospels Jesus is explicitly quoted that it is moral charitable living that leads to eternal life, while downplaying his own role in the matter.
Don't tell the conservative Lutherans or Calvinists that, they won't like it.
Don't tell the conservative Lutherans or Calvinists that, they won't like it.
I know Missouri Synod Lutherans. They also believe in literal Six Day Creation. I never knew personally any conservative Calvinists but I have met some in forums. They do not even believe that faith is humanly possible but that the 'saved' are arbitrarily predestined to have faith. What I got out of Catholicism - the idea of moral charitable living - sounds like a more reasonable way to live regardless of any afterlife reward. But I consider religion to have been a childhood disease that left me immune for life. And it was only a mild case at that.
If God showed himself there would be no need for FAITH.
The math just doesnt add up.
OMG does anyone else want to pull their hair out?
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