Why does God never show himself? (Muslims, Commandment, religion, Allah)
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If a person's good thoughts, words and deeds in life are many, the bridge will be wide enough to cross, and the Daena, a spirit representing revelation, will appear and lead the soul into the House of Song. Those souls that successfully cross the bridge are united with Ahura Mazda.
Says here that if I am a good person and do good deeds I will cross the bridge and be united with Mazda...
Once again, the ‘works’ being referenced are the rituals and observances of Jewish law (‘works of the LAW), that Paul argues cannot be forced on Gentiles. Faith is that there will be a future resurrection as promised by the resurrection of Jesus
1 Corinthians 15
3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,
It is not just the sacrifice that is important, it is also the resurrection.
12 But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14 And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith.
Without the truth of the resurrection, faith is useless.
20 But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man.
Jesus being raised from the dead is proof of the promise that there will be a resurrection. That is the object of faith – the promise of a resurrection. But what comes after? Who will receive eternal life? According to Jesus it is those who do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor their parents, and love their neighbors as themselves. (Matt 19)
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Originally Posted by medellinheel
Nope, if you reject Jesus / God then it doesn't matter what or how many good deeds or works you have done.
None the less, God is just and will be the judge on those people.
When I say faith vs works I am mainly talking about people that know of God.
What is meant by believing?
Putting faith in Jesus/God, repenting for your sins, and becoming born again.
Rejecting Jesus means rejecting what Jesus said to do – live morally and charitably. Those who do not, those who ignore what is ‘written in their hearts’ (Rom 2) will not receive eternal life. Those that do, will. That is what Jesus said. That is what Paul said. And as you quoted from Paul, everyone knows of God in the sense of knowing right from wrong. The same rules apply to everyone and those rules are about action.
Once again, the ‘works’ being referenced are the rituals and observances of Jewish law (‘works of the LAW), that Paul argues cannot be forced on Gentiles. Faith is that there will be a future resurrection as promised by the resurrection of Jesus
1 Corinthians 15
3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,
It is not just the sacrifice that is important, it is also the resurrection.
12 But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13 If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14 And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith.
Without the truth of the resurrection, faith is useless.
20 But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man.
Jesus being raised from the dead is proof of the promise that there will be a resurrection. That is the object of faith – the promise of a resurrection. But what comes after? Who will receive eternal life? According to Jesus it is those who do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, honor their parents, and love their neighbors as themselves. (Matt 19)
Rejecting Jesus means rejecting what Jesus said to do – live morally and charitably. Those who do not, those who ignore what is ‘written in their hearts’ (Rom 2) will not receive eternal life. Those that do, will. That is what Jesus said. That is what Paul said. And as you quoted from Paul, everyone knows of God in the sense of knowing right from wrong. The same rules apply to everyone and those rules are about action.
Not getting your reference to Jesus rising after death. Pretty much agreed that you are to believe Jesus was sent to die for our sins and rose again (Faith in Jesus / God)
Rejecting Jesus is simply rejecting his his gift of salvation.
Not getting your reference to Jesus rising after death. Pretty much agreed that you are to believe Jesus was sent to die for our sins and rose again (Faith in Jesus / God)
Rejecting Jesus is simply rejecting his his gift of salvation.
As Paul said, if Jesus was not raised from the dead, if there is no resurrection of the dead, then faith is in vain. Faith is in the promise of resurrection. The gift of salvation comes from doing what Jesus said to do to get eternal life. Rejecting Jesus is rejecting what Jesus said to do and therefore rejecting the possibility of eternal life. It is really very simple.
My point exactly. From that text / quote it appears I am safe if Mazda is the real God and I worship Jesus.
Thats only half of it.
Like with anything you need to research and see which "religion" has the most validity at the same time measuring probable consequences and rewards.
One of the worst sins in Islam is assigning partners to God or in any way compromising the oneness of God. The Islamic term for this sin is "shirk." Every time you pray in the name of Jesus or worship the Trinity, you commit this grave sin in Islam. You can read more about it here.
And yes, Islam has a hell for all those who do not repent of that sin before death. So by worshipping the Trinity, you are in danger of hell if Allah is the true God and Mohammed is Allah's Final Prophet.
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