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Old 01-26-2015, 09:58 PM
 
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Originally Posted by cisco kid View Post
The concept of faith, or the belief in supernatural beings and events seems pretty dumb to me.
Why would anyone believe in creationism when science has proved it cannot be possible, for example.
The faithful are those who believe in their own delusions and try to convince everyone else, sometimes
by force, to do the same.

But you are free to believe what you want. It's not against the law to worship God, Allah, Scientology
or the Easter bunny. And I am free to say what I think of it.
The concept of believing our world just spoofed into existence seems pretty dumb to me.

Why would anyone believe something can come from nothing when it has yet to be proven or replicable in a controlled environment.

Likewise you are free to believe what you want. Just try insert comments comments intelligently.

I do not believe in Islam, therefore it would be stupid for me to jump into a debate / conversation of people debating Islam through Islamist texts and doctrines just to simply say "hey Alah is not real".

Now if the topic was on Alah's or their book's validity than sure I could jump in and give my two cents. Hopefully I am providing some actual logic or proof to back it up.
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Old 01-26-2015, 10:16 PM
 
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The concept of believing our world just spoofed into existence seems pretty dumb to me.

Why would anyone believe something can come from nothing when it has yet to be proven or replicable in a controlled environment.
That's funny because you are doing exactly that by claiming that an invisible magic man
in the sky snapped his fingers and the whole universe and all the stars and planets
suddenly and miraculously poofed into existence in a single day.

When you don't know how something happened the intelligent response would be
"we don't know" ....not "oh the magic man in the sky did it."

The world grew and evolved over billions of years it didn't just magically appear in six days.
And why evolution is far more plausible than creationism.
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Old 01-26-2015, 10:26 PM
 
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And you are entitled to think that. Just dont go asking dumb questions ...

I only ask good questions.

For example...

Is religion the biggest scam in human history?
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Old 01-26-2015, 11:14 PM
 
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That's funny because you are doing exactly that by claiming that an invisible magic man
in the sky snapped his fingers and the whole universe and all the stars and planets
suddenly and miraculously poofed into existence in a single day.

When you don't know how something happened the intelligent response would be
"we don't know" ....not "oh the magic man in the sky did it."

The world grew and evolved over billions of years it didn't just magically appear in six days.
And why evolution is far more plausible than creationism.
The origins of the earth are not really debatable as neither side can provide concrete proof. Both are going off assumptions and faith. Hence, why I try to refrain from those discussions. My comment above was merely a friendly jab at the poster I was quoting.

This thread isnt about is God real or where the Earth originated from. Thus those talking points add nothing to the topic of the thread, in fact they do the opposite.

Btw, where are you getting 6 days from? I don't remember anyone proving that one day for God is the same as one day as we know it.
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Old 01-26-2015, 11:16 PM
 
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I only ask good questions.

For example...

Is religion the biggest scam in human history?
Ok, that is fine and dandy. Just try to start your own thread or find an appropriate thread for those questions. This isnt the thread for that. A question like that in this thread will only derail the topic that the OP touched / asked / addressed.

This thread is about why God doesn't show himself (hypothetically speaking). Not is God real.

The OP is asking the question in a hypothetical world where in fact there is a God.
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Old 01-27-2015, 01:59 AM
 
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This one is easy. (...but, my my, these 'there's no scientific proof for God' arguments get mighty boring, if not downright anal. He says.)

God does not show himself, because we have to search Him out. If you don't want to seek, you won't find. Simples!

'Science' never measured anything.
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Old 01-27-2015, 02:26 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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What a load of rubbish the whole religious thing is. As an agnostic I don't dismiss the possibility of a hierarchy of intelligences - call, it them, 'God' if you like, but whether it's even aware of us - or gives a flying f*** seems improbable. More likely it's like some fickle adolescent playing a computer game or a human who may or may not step on those ants. It's about time people grew up.
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Old 01-27-2015, 02:37 AM
 
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What a load of rubbish the whole religious thing is. As an agnostic I don't dismiss the possibility of a hierarchy of intelligences - call, it them, 'God' if you like, but whether it's even aware of us - or gives a flying f*** seems improbable. More likely it's like some fickle adolescent playing a computer game or a human who may or may not step on those ants. It's about time people grew up.
lol someone is mad
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Old 01-27-2015, 02:50 AM
 
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The way I understand it is that while a person is living on earth, they have to elevate themselves and improve through enlightenment, constantly improving their character until in the end they reach the levels required in heaven. If a God all of a sudden showed himself then there would be no more question of enlightenment and everyone will see that he is real, everyone will believe. And there faith wouldn't waver and there is no doubts. You have to practice while everything is in illusion for it to count.
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Old 01-27-2015, 06:41 AM
 
Location: Hickville USA
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And you are entitled to think that. Just dont go asking dumb questions (like the one the OP asked).

Regardless of if it is true or not is redundant. The OP is asking the wrong question.
The OP's question is perfectly valid, the only thing I see are dumb responses.
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