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Old 03-17-2020, 08:49 PM
 
Location: New England
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As for panic over toilet paper:

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Old 03-18-2020, 01:44 AM
 
Location: Northeastern U.S.
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My parents are over 60 so I worry about them getting it but I worried about them dying before coronavirus came along as well. I am not fine with parting ways with elderly people but part of life is dying. Unfortunately most elderly people get taken out by cancer, flu or pneumonia. I never said I thought we should do nothing to stop the spread of this but we’ve stopped life as we know it over this. And someone above made good points that we’ve never put a ban on cars and people are killed in cars everyday.

Curious to see your source on 50% of people in France being in the icu who are under 50.

The biogen folks are apparently all fine and doing well.

I am in my early 60's and have metastatic breast cancer, which is treatable in my case. My chemotherapy renders my immune system less than fully functional. I can assure you that I am not ready to die, don't want to die, and would rather people (including me) self-distanced for a few months or even more so that I and others old and young would have a better chance of not getting COVID19.

Would you prefer that instead of trying to slow the spread of the virus as most parts of the U.S. seems to be doing, we just continue as usual except for older people shut up in houses and old age homes? Sounds like Italy, where they are facing the possibility of having to let 80 year olds with COVID19 just die because their hospitals are overwhelmed?

The hope is that life as we know it will not stop forever, just a few months.

We don't ban cars because, unlike COVID19, a car accident in one town has almost no chance of causing the same kind of car accident in a bordering town a day or a week later. One person incubating COVID19 and unaware of it can infect thousands of people, especially if he/she is not practicing social distancing and is going about living "life as we know it", going to bars and restaurants and parties and large business meetings. Isn't it worth at least a few months of slowdown to assure that people who are unknowingly incubating COVID19 infect much less people, i.e. 50 instead of 500 or 2000?

If there is no social distancing, if large gatherings of people continue, even with 60+ people staying home, then the hospitals will become crowded and the medical workers over-burdened, so if you or your friends or family come down with either COVID19 or anything else requiring a stay in the ICU or the use of a ventilator, those things might not be available. I hope that never happens.
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Old 03-18-2020, 04:41 AM
 
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So many times i have been asked and or faced criticism about my negative value judgement of POT and POT users. See if this helps.


Look who is the worse of the worse on Earth,
to first come out and try to take advantage of humanity that is in big trouble
POT users trying to indoctrinate the masses during a crisis with more of their lies about POT

REUTERS MARCH 16, 2020
False claim: Marijuana kills coronavirus
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN2133TZ

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Old 03-18-2020, 04:50 AM
 
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Saw on Twitter that more people filed for unemployment in MA on Monday than all of February combined.
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Old 03-18-2020, 04:54 AM
 
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Saw on Twitter that more people filed for unemployment in MA on Monday than all of February combined.
the country and the world are in for a very rough ride. I say this as a retired healthcare worker from the Boston area (currently retired in a mountain town in SW Colorado). Healthwise and financially, a very rough ride. Please take care and let's be careful with each other, too.
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Old 03-18-2020, 05:19 AM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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Default What Covid-19 looks like in patients - a view from Seattle

Some interesting info on a JAMA podcast from Dr John Lynch, an infectious disease specialist from Seattle, on what Covid-19 looks like.

1. Covid-19 symptoms, especially in the early going or in milder cases, are virtually indistinguishable from influenza

2. Covid-19 prevalence is likely therefore HIGHLY underestimated, as it looks symptomatically just like the flu, and testing is still being rolled out. Many Covid-19 cases, including fatal ones, are likely being ascribed to the flu.

3. There is a spectrum of patient experiences from gradual onset progressing to mild symptoms that resolve on their own (usually younger patients) to rapid onset - people going downhill quickly, arriving at the hospital critically ill, needing to be put on a ventilator and then dying within 24 hours (usually older patients)

See "COVID-19 in Seattle: Clinical Features and Managing the Outbreak":
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...onavirus-alert
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Old 03-18-2020, 05:45 AM
 
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Aparentky France’s younger population is takin a hit as well.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sfg...r-15135751.php

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bus...0-2020-3%3famp

https://thehill.com/changing-america...-patients-with

And young children can be seriously affected as well

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/h...tml?0p19G=3248
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Old 03-18-2020, 06:18 AM
 
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The whole thing stinks. Economy is going to suffer and so are people as a while because of all we can’t do now. The thing that is worrisome is how long we will be living like this.
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Old 03-18-2020, 06:19 AM
 
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What is happening in Germany? If their numbers are right they have 10K cases and 26 deaths total? Man I want to be German right now.
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Old 03-18-2020, 06:47 AM
 
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What is happening in Germany? If their numbers are right they have 10K cases and 26 deaths total? Man I want to be German right now.
If someone has an underlying condition and Coronavirus they attribute the death to the underlying condition
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