Coronavirus in Massachusetts (Boston: unemployment benefits, calculation, vs)

[wror]

4 out of 5 states that have the highest number of coronavirus cases in the United States including Massachusetts, are legalized POT states.

Here is the latest map at the time of this post
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashb...23467b48e9ecf6

[Bridge781]

It also seems like all these companies that have shut down and forced workers to work from home expect business to continue as usual. It’s not. People are preoccupied with coronavirus. I had two deals (not big ones) fall through because of coronavirus. There’s no way business has been just marching on as usual in many industries the past few weeks nor will it in the weeks to come.

[brightdoglover]

Unable to find the source, sorry, I've been reading so many sources- Lancet, CDC, Doctors Without Borders, Johns Hopkins.

Of course this is a financial/job/economic disaster. My current state of Colorado is now shut down. There is very little "work from home," and people in the lower part of the income world are absolutely screwed, and small business. Etc.

I find it pointless to discuss with you the seriousness of this pandemic for all people, even if many deaths are clustered in post-60 or already compromised. I am no screaming liberal or anything, but after years of working in hospitals, studying infectious disease and getting a master's in public health and going through several outbreaks, working in AIDS hospice and going through Ebola training, I can say that this is not an overreaction in the interest of some stroked-out near-dead old people. I'm done here.

[Bridge781]

That’s fine feel free to be done. We didn’t shut things down over Ebola or SARS. There are other contagious illnesses out there that we don’t shut down over either that kill.

I am alarmed by this but most people are surviving this. I’m also alarmed at life shutting down.

[wror]

People are spoiled in the county.
They need to have their brain stimulated around the clock, drink booze or smoke dope or .... they get booooooored.
They need attention so they get tattoos or talk ghetto to get the attention.

Sit home and read books for 3 months. Get tough with your brain.
Give it time for the virus to be contained and a vaccine developed.

[LeavingMA]

Originally Posted by robr2

The mortality rate with the flu is .01% - 1 out of every hundred thousand. In your scenario, it's 3000 out of every hundred thousand. It's nothing like the seasonal flu.

And so far the death rate in the US from this is .02%, so yes slightly higher cause we don't have an immunization from it. I think the average death age is around 80. Don't get me wrong, I'm not taking that lightly, but elderly are always at risk from the flu and other illness.

I get the containment thing at first, but at what point is that not going to work and we need to let this take its course. Just make sure the people with health problems are the ones that go to the hospital and not those with healthy immune systems. I really believe we are delaying the fact many will end up with this either this year or in future years.

[Cabound1]

Originally Posted by Bridge781

But kids are not dying, that’s kind of my point. I don’t want anyone to die. Just not sure we need to shut down entirely the way we are.

Kids are not dying from the virus, but if our healthcare system gets overwhelmed by people with the virus, your kid will die if he needs critical care for some reason. Young healthy people are at risk of getting no critical care for anything if our healthcare system collapses. Everyone has skin in the game.

[Cabound1]

Originally Posted by matrix5k

I guess there is just no convincing people like OP. They've seen the charts and heard the arguments but whatever we say, they will just say it's not a big deal.

Doctors in Italy right not have to decide who gets treated, and who gets to sit in the hallway and die. The health system is overwhelmed. There are not enough hospitals, doctors, nurses, ventilators, masks, equipment or supplies to handle this. Hospitals were already overwhelmed before this whole thing started. ICUs only have so many beds. There are simply not enough resources to take care of everyone. They are still caring for premature babies requiring the NICU, trauma patients, cancer patients, emergency surgeries etc on top of coronavirus victims.

But it's just like the flu right?

This.

[LeavingMA]

Originally Posted by Cabound1

This.

Panic is different than the flu, or anything. Healthy people need to stay home and will beat it and let the hospitals deal with the people with weaker immune systems. This is something we need to do, but right now the panic is worse than the actual virus.

[btownboss4]

Originally Posted by LeavingMA

And so far the death rate in the US from this is .02%, so yes slightly higher cause we don't have an immunization from it. I think the average death age is around 80. Don't get me wrong, I'm not taking that lightly, but elderly are always at risk from the flu and other illness.

I get the containment thing at first, but at what point is that not going to work and we need to let this take its course. Just make sure the people with health problems are the ones that go to the hospital and not those with healthy immune systems. I really believe we are delaying the fact many will end up with this either this year or in future years.

In Lombardy there is a 9% fatality rate. The rest of Italy it’s 2-3%. Italy is what happens when containment works to some extent. Imagine if they did nothing.

That’s what happens when you let it “run it’s course” in Hubei it was like 7%.