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Old 03-16-2012, 07:07 AM
 
Location: Republic of New England
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And Connecticut used to be tropical at one time...
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Live in NY, work in CT
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From what I remember (and this was many years ago I read this)…the longest weather observations in the United States comes from two locations; Charleston, SC and shockingly on the Yale Campus in New Haven. Yale as you know is older than the United States and Charleston was an old subtropical port city that was on the spice routes from the Caribbean and West Africa since the late 1600’s. From what I remember – sometime in the 1970’s both locations stopped recordkeeping daily weather obs for various reasons. I would love to get a look at that data set – lol.

I remember reading that the 1930’s and 1950’s still have some of the records for heat up and down the East Coast. Interestingly, the most amount of tropical cyclone activity occurred from 1938 to 1961 on the East Coast.
I know Yale has an old record too (I've seen weather history pieces that note early 1800s data from there), but it's hard to find semi-consistent data from it on the Internet. But if you go to the Albany NWS page, their "top 10 lists" include years well before the "official" record (which began in 1874 there). For example, it shows the warmest year as 1828 and a solid degree above 1998, the first "recent" year in that top 10.

Special Climate Data Albany NY

Another example, it shows July, 1868 (a few months before Central Park giving "official data") as being the warmest month ever in Albany, at 79.7 deg. Considering that would be the 8th warmest ever month in the NYC "official" record, and NYC is considerably warmer than Albany, I wonder if it would've topped the record set in 2010.
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Old 03-16-2012, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Here's the 6z GFS. Left data is for Waterbury, CT Right is for Concord, NH.
In Celsius.

Notice temps stay warm for another week but then crash and surface stays in 30s and below 32 at night last week of March.

And more interestingly the 5000' level stays below 20 degrees and if this stays and holds true and we get some moisture it "could" fall as snow. Its long range but interesting to see.

This data is from a paid site but you can use this link. Just change the 4 letter code in the URL for a different location.
IPS MeteoStar 16-Day Weather Forecast

Also - the highlight on right is the thickness levels. Anything under 540 supports snow. Anytime you see it below 550 it means cold.


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Old 03-16-2012, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Just thinking out loud...

What are the odds that to start off we saw a snowstorm with leaves on the trees and to end off; we see a 3"+ snowfall with blooms on the trees? That would be strange, maybe poetic? But I'm sure rare as well.

Watch 7Wishes post some awesome stats and facts about that. :-) lol
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Old 03-16-2012, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Funny, I just checked the latest GFS12z and it shows this for March 27th.. Trough comes down first than a clipper from Canada dives down which at this point in time is the only chance to see anything white as opposed from the coast or West. Those clippers can bring some decent cold air down with the moisture.


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Old 03-16-2012, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Republic of New England
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^ I highly doubt any snow would come that time... many storm they was trying to say the past few weeks were all hyped...
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Old 03-16-2012, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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First things first.. Record High temps possible next week from Plains to East.

Here's the warmest days from the last GFS. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday

Euro is warmer than the GFS but GFS has 60s widespread. If we dont get an inch liquid by then, expect some spots to hit 75 in CT.
Purple shade is 75-80.

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Old 03-16-2012, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Live in NY, work in CT
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Just thinking out loud...

What are the odds that to start off we saw a snowstorm with leaves on the trees and to end off; we see a 3"+ snowfall with blooms on the trees? That would be strange, maybe poetic? But I'm sure rare as well.

Watch 7Wishes post some awesome stats and facts about that. :-) lol
As it's easy to get, I tried the Central Park stats, couldn't find a year with measurable in both October and April, though the 3 years they had measurable in October (1925, 1979 and 2011) all had a T the following April.

So I checked Windsor Locks on the BOX site, 1925-26 did have measurable in both Oct and April but it was only 0.1" (Central Park got 0.8" out of the Oct. 1925 snow). The only other year they show October measurable is 1972-73 (0.4" in Oct and 0.3" in April......may be the "winner" for this query in regards to inland CT but probably didn't happen at the coast as that is the winter of NYC's lowest snowfall total) and 1979-80 (1.7" but a only a T in April (5.9" in March so maybe it was in late March?)).

The site shows 1.3" in MAY of 1977, but nothing in October 1976.

Too bad can't get Bridgeport stats, they had 0.5" on Oct. 4, 1987 (with bigger amounts in Danbury and NW CT), BDL shows traces in both April and May of 1988, so maybe that was the year......
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Old 03-16-2012, 02:09 PM
 
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Just thinking out loud...

What are the odds that to start off we saw a snowstorm with leaves on the trees and to end off; we see a 3"+ snowfall with blooms on the trees? That would be strange, maybe poetic?
It would be cruel.
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Old 03-16-2012, 08:24 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Default Euro Looooooong Range

Who's ready to laugh?? This was brought to my attention so I had to check. Sure enough the Euro weeklies(only available through paid services) shows a Huge storm off the coast and yes..cold enough for snow as it passes.

It exits Delmarva, blows up near Long Island, and 850s and surface would support snow to fall.(probably heavy). Starts as rain south of 84 but turns to snow. Maybe all snow northern CT.

And now for the laugh....Its for April 14th. .. 4 weeks away. LOL

It does fit my crazy leaves/blooms senario.

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