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Old 03-18-2012, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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I think this says it all for how wacky this stretch is, for most of the US. Can you imagine Int'l Falls MN breaking a record high yesterday by 22 degrees??

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Old 03-18-2012, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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Record High temperature set in Concord, Nh of 81F. BREAKING the old record of 67F set LAST YEAR by 14F. I would say this current pattern is unprecedented for March across the eastern US considering we have 140-150 years worth of records. This type of pattern setup doesn't just randomly happen once every 5-10 years.
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Old 03-18-2012, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Latest GFS has practically no rain for another 2 weeks. Just a drizzle here and there.

It does show a big storm around the 26th which stays North and warm.

Looks like the dry/warm could continue. We'll see if things show changes next several days.

Enjoy.
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Old 03-18-2012, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Indiana Uplands
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Latest GFS has practically no rain for another 2 weeks. Just a drizzle here and there.

It does show a big storm around the 26th which stays North and warm.

Looks like the dry/warm could continue. We'll see if things show changes next several days.

Enjoy.
A possible sea breeze scenario for coastal locales tommorrow. Ya, it does look quite dry with the exception of northern New England entering into a more showery pattern about a week from now. Temperatures will "cool" to 5-15F above average instead of 30-45F above average
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Old 03-18-2012, 09:20 PM
 
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Record High temperature set in Concord, Nh of 81F. BREAKING the old record of 67F set LAST YEAR by 14F. I would say this current pattern is unprecedented for March across the eastern US considering we have 140-150 years worth of records. This type of pattern setup doesn't just randomly happen once every 5-10 years.
I agree. At this point, I think this is indicative of a warming planet and is a culimation of decades of warming. Is this the new norm? Absolutely not. But for it to get this above normal for this long is more than just an anomolous extreme year. Normally I would say one extreme year doesn't point to global warming, but the key word is "unprecedented". And combined with the consistent warming of climate normals decade after decade certainly points to warming planet.
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Old 03-18-2012, 10:20 PM
 
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I agree. At this point, I think this is indicative of a warming planet and is a culimation of decades of warming. Is this the new norm? Absolutely not. But for it to get this above normal for this long is more than just an anomolous extreme year. Normally I would say one extreme year doesn't point to global warming, but the key word is "unprecedented". And combined with the consistent warming of climate normals decade after decade certainly points to warming planet.
Yet Eastern Europe and Alaska just one of their worst winters on record. I don't buy it. Its just a very unusual patten.
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Old 03-19-2012, 03:54 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Yet Eastern Europe and Alaska just one of their worst winters on record. I don't buy it. Its just a very unusual patten.

Exactly. I dont know why people use local data for global result. CT is a spec compared to size of Earth and so is half the U.S. It's just central and East U.S experiencing this while the rest of planet is actually colder than normal.

Connecticut has been through this before. These extremes will be more common. Some lasting longer than others.
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Old 03-19-2012, 04:23 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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NAM has thursdays temps warmer. 80s for the valleys.

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Old 03-19-2012, 05:20 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Yet Eastern Europe and Alaska just one of their worst winters on record. I don't buy it. Its just a very unusual patten.
Dont forget the other side too. https://www.city-data.com/forum/weath...continues.html
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Old 03-19-2012, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Live in NY, work in CT
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I agree. At this point, I think this is indicative of a warming planet and is a culimation of decades of warming. Is this the new norm? Absolutely not. But for it to get this above normal for this long is more than just an anomolous extreme year. Normally I would say one extreme year doesn't point to global warming, but the key word is "unprecedented". And combined with the consistent warming of climate normals decade after decade certainly points to warming planet.
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Exactly. I dont know why people use local data for global result. CT is a spec compared to size of Earth and so is half the U.S. It's just central and East U.S experiencing this while the rest of planet is actually colder than normal.

Connecticut has been through this before. These extremes will be more common. Some lasting longer than others.
Yes and no. If you average anomolies out over the last few decades, the warm clearly sticks out over the cold globally. For example, Central Park breaks or ties at least one daily record high every year, while it only does so with a record low every few years, and in the last 20 years it has only tied record lows (the last daily low it tied was in January, 2004 and the last actual "break" of a record daily low was in August of 1994!). It had averaged about 2-3 subzero lows/decade, but last had one in 1994 as well (however, the longest such "stretch" occurred from 1943 to 1961 so we have not broken that but will if no subzero low occurs there next winter......the January, 2004 record low of 1-deg is the only time in the stretch it's even been under 5-deg). Because of it's long history as a weather station, it's a good "barometer" of this (Bridgeport/Sikorsky breaks record lows more often because it's only been in service since 1948 for example)

The science is not off (Venus is a lot warmer than Mercury despite being twice as far from the sun because of a "greenhouse atmosphere", but it would take centuries of what we're doing to get to that kind of composition), but climate is complex and the effect is both hard to detect and probably quite exaggerated as evidenced by the fact that cold anomolies still do occur. To me, changing the composition of the atmosphere is probably not a good thing to begin with and it's good we're "aware" of what's going on, but I also think we should let science do it's job and not "sound the alarm" as many do either.
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