Capital of Black America? (living, rates, compared, place)
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No point in continuing if you insist on misstating others' positions, shifting goalposts and creating strawmen.
It's cool, it doesn't really matter. I love everything about NYC. No point trying to compete with it, I like how DC is developing. NYC and DC are the only two cities that I would live in because of the professional black population and the urban environment. Atlanta is another city I like, but I can't get past the lack of urban environment. If Atlanta looked like a northeastern city, I would be all over it. As we both know, you can't find the social environment DC, NYC, and Atlanta have anywhere else in America.
In Bajan's Cherrypicked video of DC on most likely a Sunday afternoon in mid August of a downtown, district that is not heavily residential of course you are going to see empty streets.
I *cherrypicked* only because your comrade did. A Google streetview and a video don't go very far in proving a point. Hard data does. So far, I am the only one who's produced any data (pedestrian counts and transit data).
The reality is that DC does not have high pedestrian counts. If Chinatown has pedestrian counts that are about on par with Downtown/Ft. Greene's (a little less actually), then how on Earth could DC be more vibrant than Brooklyn in its less busy areas such as Georgetown, Logan Circle, Mount Pleasant, U Street, etc. The only thing you guys are going off is anecdote ("I've been to Brooklyn many times") because you both know the data doesn't support DC's case.
And the point of comparing Bed-Stuy to Georgetown is to show that even the non-gentrified areas of Brooklyn have street traffic comparable to touristy areas of DC.
I NYC and DC are the only two cities that I would live in because of the professional black population and the urban environment.
DC can give you one but not both together. There is literally no neighborhood in DC with high quality urbanity and Metro access that also has a significant concentration of Black professionals. And by "significant," I mean where younger Blacks with college degrees make up more than 30% of young degree holders overall.
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It's cool, it doesn't really matter. I love everything about NYC. No point trying to compete with it, I like how DC is developing. NYC and DC are the only two cities that I would live in because of the professional black population and the urban environment. Atlanta is another city I like, but I can't get past the lack of urban environment. If Atlanta looked like a northeastern city, I would be all over it. As we both know, you can't find the social environment DC, NYC, and Atlanta have anywhere else in America.
I'd pretty much leave it all at this. I have lived in both DC and Atlanta metro areas, and have visited New York City more times than any city in the world that I have never lived in. I have nothing poor to say about any of them. They each represent now the 3 largest black population centers in America, and are the nation's top three core regions to import and house black people period.
I *cherrypicked* only because your comrade did. A Google streetview and a video don't go very far in proving a point. Hard data does. So far, I am the only one who's produced any data (pedestrian counts and transit data).
The reality is that DC does not have high pedestrian counts. If Chinatown has pedestrian counts that are about on par with Downtown/Ft. Greene's (a little less actually), then how on Earth could DC be more vibrant than Brooklyn in its less busy areas such as Georgetown, Logan Circle, Mount Pleasant, U Street, etc. The only thing you guys are going off is anecdote ("I've been to Brooklyn many times") because you both know the data doesn't support DC's case.
And the point of comparing Bed-Stuy to Georgetown is to show that even the non-gentrified areas of Brooklyn have street traffic comparable to touristy areas of DC.
Again, it's cool. This got completely turned around anyway when you thought I was comparing only Georgetown to Bedstuy. That's makes no sense when Bedstuy is about half the size of D.C.'s urban core. I mean, Brooklyn is bigger than DC alone. I was comparing the whole area I pointed out (Logan Circle, Downtown DC, Shaw, etc. etc. etc.) to Bedstuy because Bedstuy is 5 times the size of Georgetown. Either way, we all know NYC is a different animal.
DC can give you one but not both together. There is literally no neighborhood in DC with high quality urbanity and Metro access that also has a significant concentration of Black professionals. And by "significant," I mean where younger Blacks with college degrees make up more than 30% of young degree holders overall.
Agreed, but social activities are frequented by people from all over the region in DC. If I'm going to something a promoter is putting on with a professional black crowd, it's usually in the urban core somewhere. That's what is important to me. Walking around on Sunday Funday in an urban environment going to an event with people that look like me. There is no place in Atlanta that gives me the vibrant street urban environment I feel in DC.
When I'm in Brooklyn, we usually go into the city for events and to meet friends. We never stay in Brooklyn for stuff and people living in Harlem where most of my other friends live hate coming to Brooklyn. It takes like an hour. We always meet in the city.
Agreed, but social activities are frequented by people from all over the region in DC. If I'm going to something a promoter is putting on with a professional black crowd, it's usually in the urban core somewhere. That's what is important to me. Walking around on Sunday Funday in an urban environment.
The only problem is that you're somewhat confined to doing things on the weekends. Few people are going to make the trip from Laurel to Shaw on Tuesday evening for a quick cup of coffee. So you're left with the party set that schleps it in from Maryland for Friday/Saturday and Sunday brunch.
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