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View Poll Results: Which city is the capital of Black America in your opinion?
NYC Area 66 4.89%
Phil 25 1.85%
DC 121 8.96%
Atlanta 807 59.78%
Memphis 21 1.56%
New ORleans 33 2.44%
Houston 29 2.15%
Seattle 14 1.04%
Chicago 35 2.59%
Detroit 84 6.22%
Other (include in your reply) 14 1.04%
There is none. 101 7.48%
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Old 04-04-2020, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I know what you mean! Thats why so many people think Boston is racist too!

https://boston.cbslocal.com/2020/02/...verick-square/

Asian woman attacked in NYC for wearing a mask
https://twitter.com/TonyySays/status...irus-us-2020-3

2019 Long Island Investigation on racism by real estate agents for YEARS
https://projects.newsday.com/long-is...investigation/

Oh lets get back to Boston because there is SOO MUCH.Its very easy to find
https://www.complex.com/sports/2017/...s-city-america

Here the Daily Show talks about Racism in Boston.Pay attention at 351 where they have a graph of where cities rank according to there welcoming of blacks.Boston was last.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtUgq2Q1ivA

In Kennsington in Philadelphia is known for there extreme racism


Rural Pennsylvania has a reputation as well for the Klan.
https://www.ydr.com/story/news/histo...ls/1034217002/

Klan Rally planned in Boston
https://www.masslive.com/news/boston...ortedly_p.html

Klan in NYC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywUnKSCCeDA

Racism against Jews on the rise in New York
https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...92f_story.html

Forsyth County has had a huge South Asian population for at least 20 years.
I have a friend who is from Senegal who has a house there for 13 years. Forsyth now is one of the wealthiest counties in the South.
You cherry pick some places in a vast region where the majority of blacks live in the US and make claims as if its not just as big in other places.
You expect this stuff in rural areas but all across the Northeast its in the cities mainly where the largest groups of black reside.

If the Northern states had a larger black population ,you would see more racism.
So yes if you want to say this is true of the SOuth then you have to acknowledge how racist Boston is.
Maybe you should check your "visceral reaction" to Bostons racism
I came in to defend Georgia. Take a breath. Racism is all over the country, duh. That’s why it doesn’t really matter. All I will say was that it seems there’s more of a subculture and place for outward racism in the rural south than most areas of the country, which is really just a negative reaction to the large black population .

Also, that was flat out was not a planned Klan rally in MA. A handful of Klan members were planning to attend a Free Speech Rally. They didn’t plan it and it wasn’t a Klan rally. And the “rally” 10-12 people confused to one gazebo and they were surrounded by a couple thousand anti-protesters.
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Old 04-04-2020, 01:06 PM
 
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I came in to defend Georgia. Take a breath. Racism is all over the country, duh. That’s why it doesn’t really matter. All I will say was that it seems there’s more of a subculture and place for outward racism in the rural south than most areas of the country, which is really just a negative reaction to the large black population .

Also, that was flat out was not a planned Klan rally in MA. A handful of Klan members were planning to attend a Free Speech Rally. They didn’t plan it and it wasn’t a Klan rally. And the “rally” 10-12 people confused to one gazebo and they were surrounded by a couple thousand anti-protesters.
Yeah racism is all over. The history of the South ensured that it had it at a larger rate due to the laws and caste system that was in place. Atlanta was a good place where "blacks" could build, contribute, and establish even though opposition was heavy. The Mass vs GA historical racism isn't much of a debate honestly and I'm from GA.
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Old 04-04-2020, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Yeah racism is all over. The history of the South ensured that it had it at a larger rate due to the laws and caste system that was in place. Atlanta was a good place where "blacks" could build, contribute, and establish even though opposition was heavy. The Mass vs GA historical racism isn't much of a debate honestly and I'm from GA.
This is not a Mass vs GA historical debate about racism. There no debate to be had and I was never interested in having it. Some posters do not like Boston and Mass and use that as some sort of defense against racism in other areas of the country in particular the south (I don’t think CleverOne even lives in Georgia), many of whom don’t understand the racial, ethnic, or political climate of New England today so I can’t speak to what that’s all about.

I came to GAs defense, didn’t single it out in regards to outward racism and minimalized it’s significance in the modern day. In regards to Mass clever one has no experience with it to debate about it, and he rightly mentions other northern states but it all moves us further from the crux of what anyone was saying to begin with. The thread was already done tbh.
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Old 04-04-2020, 01:37 PM
 
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Some other NYC area private schools that come to mind...

Cardinal Hayes in the Concourse Village neighborhood of the Bronx: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardin...es_High_School
https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00922273

Mount St. Michael Academy in the Wakefield neighborhood in NE Bronx: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_...ichael_Academy
https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=X0921451

All Hallows in the South Bronx: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Hallows_High_School
https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00922251

Monsignor Scanlan in the Throggs Neck neighborhood of the Bronx: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsig...an_High_School
https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00922659
More...

Cardinal Spellman in the Bronx: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardin...(New_York_City)
https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00921633

LaSalle Academy in Manhattan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Salle_Academy
https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=BB162050
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Old 04-04-2020, 01:58 PM
 
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This is not a Mass vs GA historical debate about racism. There no debate to be had and I was never interested in having it. Some posters do not like Boston and Mass and use that as some sort of defense against racism in other areas of the country in particular the south (I don’t think CleverOne even lives in Georgia), many of whom don’t understand the racial, ethnic, or political climate of New England today so I can’t speak to what that’s all about.

I came to GAs defense, didn’t single it out in regards to outward racism and minimalized it’s significance in the modern day. In regards to Mass clever one has no experience with it to debate about it, and he rightly mentions other northern states but it all moves us further from the crux of what anyone was saying to begin with. The thread was already done tbh.
I saw where you were coming from. It was going along nicely before the troll post. Anyway, Atlanta, DC, and NY all have a stake in it. Boston has an interesting argument to make too given its population. Seattle is probably battling with Utah for last second to last place.
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Old 04-04-2020, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I saw where you were coming from. It was going along nicely before the troll post. Anyway, Atlanta, DC, and NY all have a stake in it. Boston has an interesting argument to make too given its population. Seattle is probably battling with Utah for last second to last place.
A stake in what exactly? Black capital or racism? I’m assuming Black capital(s) Honest question.
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Old 04-04-2020, 02:38 PM
 
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I see them on documentaries, YouTube videos and in Charlottesville.

And with things like segregated proms which a misssippi school district had itill 2012,

the Jenna Six

Mission State Correctional facilities

Angola Prison Louisiana

the South Carolina church bombings, that man police shot in his back while he was running away,

White racists rallying in support of George Zimmerman
The KK tried to adopt a highway in Georgia a few years ago.

Massive KKK rally in South Carolina like 4 years ago-you won’t ever see that in Boston..

Miss Black Texas facing racist death threats

Just a huge abundance of what I’m saying

Forsyth County being Forsyth county ( until like 10 years ago)

You literally see anything I say about the south and have a visceral reaction. Take a deep breath

Here’s a few examples bro.. I could posts these for days. Not surprisingly the Internet s flooded with outward examples of southern racism..in case you’re in denial. But again not really important to what makes a black Mecca.

https://youtu.be/fDla-r2uj7U

https://youtu.be/WErjPmFulQ0

https://youtu.be/8R6VvLPUpII

https://youtu.be/_ZizTLWqCE4

https://youtu.be/js-JruvsB10

https://youtu.be/_ecVZsLyQK4

https://youtu.be/Sp1WMDmIXVg

https://youtu.be/3IrGEhPILBk
None of these are instances of everyday White folks being outspoken and unashamed Klan members.

And anti-Black racism is a nationwide phenomenon.
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Old 04-04-2020, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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None of these are instances of everyday White folks being outspoken and unashamed Klan members.

And anti-Black racism is a nationwide phenomenon.
Only posted the videos because I felt like CO was trying to say I was making up a phenomenon. Like I had to have an autograph from a meet and greet with a southern klansmen to verify their existence... I agree with what you’re saying.

I had already specified in my original comment, poor rural southern whites....who are Klan members. I have before, and since, made it clear racism is a nationwide phenomena.

However, I will say that segregated proms and the KKK suing the state for the right to adopt a highway does seem distinctly southern in flavor. THATS NOT TO SAY THEIR ARENT NORTHERN FLAVORS OF RACISM. It’s nationwide!

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Old 04-04-2020, 02:54 PM
 
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A stake in what exactly? Black capital or racism? I’m assuming Black capital(s) Honest question.
A stake in the being a "black" capital based on the Cape and West Indian population. The racism thing was myself and other posters getting off topic. Boston isn't weak with its melanated population so an argument can be made.
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Old 04-04-2020, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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A stake in the being a "black" capital based on the Cape and West Indian population. The racism thing was myself and other posters getting off topic. Boston isn't weak with its melanated population so an argument can be made.
I agree but I think Boston is too disconnected from the South and Midwest. It’s sort of similar to LA in terms of black settlement. Somewhat scattered with a base to the south of the city’s main areas. Usuall living in places where they’re outnumbered by Latinos. If you’re in minority heavy areas of MA it will feel blacker than CA because the line between black and Latino is blurry and in MA and there are so many Afro-Latinos.

MA had made lots imof contributions to black culture even recently but it’s not a dominant figure and doesn’t really get the coverage other areas do. This goes for New England in general.

If any of you all watched the madam CH walker story in Netflix during this quarantine, that’s was shot by a director born, raised and residing in Boston, Demane Davis. Black Panther costume design was made by a black woman, Ruth Carter, from Springfield MA. If you watched the Netflix Documentary “Who Killed Malcolm X” the leading researcher and voice, Abdul Rahman, is a black man from Providence, Rhode Island. If any of you all enjoy Power, the director, Courtney Kemp, is from Connecticut. The list goes on.

Boston lacks the economics parity with whites to own property and venues and influence the greater culture of the region. It also has left a bad taste in the mouths of Black Americans in the 1970s and 1980:. It’s not a place other look to to shoot or cover black issues-even if they should. I watched an HBO documents try on roller rinks and they were chronically grown who they all closed in LA and how black skaters faced racism in North Carolina rinks and I couldn’t help but thinkChez Vous in Boston would have been the perfect rink to cover.

Boston is not a black capital but it is for New England and it one fo the top cities for West Indians for sure and is the capital for Cape Verdeans of course. Still Boston’s black cultural ties with other states die off after North Jersey although they pick up again in California form what I can see.
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