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View Poll Results: Which city is the capital of Black America in your opinion?
NYC Area 66 4.89%
Phil 25 1.85%
DC 121 8.96%
Atlanta 807 59.78%
Memphis 21 1.56%
New ORleans 33 2.44%
Houston 29 2.15%
Seattle 14 1.04%
Chicago 35 2.59%
Detroit 84 6.22%
Other (include in your reply) 14 1.04%
There is none. 101 7.48%
Voters: 1350. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-07-2020, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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NYC over DC?
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Old 04-07-2020, 10:55 AM
 
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Being hesitant to visit Boston is a major overreaction, nothing would ‘happen’ to you (i feel ridiculous even having to type that out$. Bill Burr is a comedian, making a familiar joke he’s slay not from Boston rather a suburb and is over 50 years old hasn’t lived in Massachusetts for decades so idk how well he can speak to Boston s culture today, probably not very well. Boston is 4x blacker than San Francisco and not much like San Francisco at all. Very different vibe and culture but sure the white culture is probably fairly similar. But also hesitating to visit Boston out of fear(?) is just silly most of the white people are wealthy nerdy liberal types who vote Warren or Bernie quite frankly White people don’t want any problems with black people in Boston. If Boston racists it’s more so because of wealth inequality and the fact that We move I pretty much two different Boston’s-not entirely, but close to it.

Basically the media doesn’t highlight the voice of Black Bostonians, especially not national media. People perspective of Boston is shaped largely on tweet, headlines, black people whon visited briefly for work and did no research in the city, people like Bill Burr not even from the city, and stories they heard about Boston in the 1960s and 1970s.i think for a long time after busing (Boston history is basically pre-busing, busing, and post-busing Boston powers are be didn’t want to embrace or show the diversity of the city and by the time it did it was too little too late.

These articles attest to that:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/03/...outputType=amp

https://www.bostonglobe.com/business...outputType=amp

https://www.wgbh.org/news/local-news...pot-shop-opens

https://www.blackenterprise.com/dani...in-boston/amp/

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/c...outputType=amp

https://www.bostonmagazine.com/resta...dudley-square/

https://digboston.com/around-my-way-jefe-replay/

https://www.baystatebanner.com/2012/...und-the-world/

https://www.idealist.org/en/amp/nonp...-boston-boston


No one ever really asks black Bostonians who live in the city today what their experience has been like. A lot of those things I posted are fairly recent developments but in the 19@0s I remember WILD. Ringing the community together all the time, ROXBURY t shirts and flags and bumper stickers, Nelson Mandela having a parade down Blue shill Avenue, the Noeton Shootout, the Tom znouner Lite Festival in Dorchester, and Juneteenth/Roxbury Homecoming

Boston, away from the tourist areas and college areas, is basically a smaller NYC. That’s what other black people who have visited or loved there have told me and it’s not far from the truth. I think Boston been a really cultural smorgasbord in the city limits for 20-25 years. But what’s also important is blacks are the largest racial group born in Boston and the largest bloc of public school students and have been for 3+ decades. So most of the people with the deepest ties to the city are black. Many of the suburbs are now very much so diverse. I think Boston is racist in that it’s pretty inequitable. I had a white friend stay with me for a few days when I lived in Boston and his previous experience had been with white folks form suburban Boston. He told me a few times how my version of Boston was very different than what he had experienced earlier. Basically night and day.

Boston has a more so set stove work-oriented high j come white side that’s maybe 40% of the population but also a very ‘urban, streetwise black and Afro/Latin Caribbean side that makes about half as much and is very much family and community oriented. Blacks in the suburbs (most of them to the south) make considerably more than they do in the city itself. But what Boston doesn’t have that NYC or Philly has is a large contingent of hipster whites that live in Black areas to sort of bridge that cultural divide. There’s not really the edgy artsy white population that acts as a medium between the white community and black community. Maybe more so in Cambridge but even that’s less and less every year. Also lots of black folks who work hourly jobs at universities like Harvard or BU and earn degrees there for free or send their kids there for free.

To be totally honest the irish working class folks people seem to want to avoid have way more in common with black Bostonians than many new white Bostonians. We were at odds in the past but much less so now. They are nearly as equally vested in family, community, culture and fighting gentrification as black Bostonians are. Nowadays they sort of operate within the black/multicultural Boston because they're numbers are low .We sport of grew with one another albeit in different parts of the city. More in that here https://boston.cbslocal.com/2019/11/...ia-mejia-vote/. And https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/03/...ty-moves-left/

Boston remains one of the only places you can go to Chez Vous roller rink and skate to GAGE, RDX, Alkaline, Konshens, Bobby Brown, French MOntana, Fabolous, Bobby Shmurda Ed OG; go to a black owned marijuana shop the shop on the train and be in the beach within an hour, walk from the beach right into a pedestrian shopping district akin to a small Times Square, and be a 15 minute train ride from a 5 star resort Wynn casino...or enjoy premium fresh seafood at a bar in the hood.
This is actually good stuff. The one visit I made to Boston was six or seven years ago during my birthday weekend in December; I have a good friend who lives in Cambridge and works for one of the big hospitals up here so he hosted me. It was an enjoyable trip and I'd actually like to go back in the summer in the near future.
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Old 04-07-2020, 10:55 AM
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Chicago, DC, Houston, Philadelphia LA, Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis would be next.
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Old 04-07-2020, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Baltimore
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This is actually good stuff. The one visit I made to Boston was six or seven years ago during my birthday weekend in December; I have a good friend who lives in Cambridge and works for one of the big hospitals up here so he hosted me. It was an enjoyable trip and I'd actually like to go back in the summer in the near future.
That’s whatsup.

Yea You gotta go in the summer. Perfect weather, nice foliage/parks beaches, Carnival, Puerto Rican Parade, Dominican Parade, Haitian Parade, Juenteenth, Boston Pops, Dorchester Day, Soulfest, Roxbury Film Festival and all the students are home . Also a lot of new entertainment/restaurants have popped up since 2013.

A few typos, black events form the 1990s I was mentioning were the WILD sponsored Tom Joyner Kite Festival in Dorchester and the Boston Shootout.

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Old 04-07-2020, 11:47 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Chicago, DC, Houston, Philadelphia LA, Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis would be next.
Seems both Chicago and DC lost many of its African-Americans last couple decades especially. I know Chicago's 200,000+ drop 2000 to 2010 made way for a few % total drop in city% to have the Hispanic % overtake it as second after White %.

DC also experienced a big drop last decade. Doesn't scream Black mecca unless you go by in a historical sense in evolution and past. Philadelphia did not experience such drop and shows in recent gains modestly in population, but Philly still got one of the lowest vote totals for this thread. Chicago could not push a gain in population overall with continued Black out-migrations it still deals with.

NYC clearly has its historical Black presence and history in influence as Chicago did. But I believe NYC's Black totals are being pressured downward in African-Americans. Though Black immigrants may sustain it better then other cities.

If current trends and population %s are used. Atlanta fits the bill. The poll not even close who wins to debate and can't be watered down.
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Old 04-07-2020, 12:26 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Seems both Chicago and DC lost many of its African-Americans last couple decades especially. I know Chicago's 200,000+ drop 2000 to 2010 made way for a few % total drop in city% to have the Hispanic % overtake it as second after White %.

DC also experienced a big drop last decade. Doesn't scream Black mecca unless you go by in a historical sense in evolution and past. Philadelphia did not experience such drop and shows in recent gains modestly in population, but Philly still got one of the lowest vote totals for this thread. Chicago could not push a gain in population overall with continued Black out-migrations it still deals with.

NYC clearly has its historical Black presence and history in influence as Chicago did. But I believe NYC's Black totals are being pressured downward in African-Americans. Though Black immigrants may sustain it better then other cities.

If current trends and population %s are used. Atlanta fits the bill. The poll not even close who wins to debate and can't be watered down.
This is simply false information about DC. Washington DC proper has a higher black population in 2020 than it did in 2010. That is not the same as Chicago which lost hundreds of thousands of Black people over the same time period. What you just stated is not factual. DC proper has a growing population therefore the only thing that was "lost" was the percentage share of Blacks, not the total population. In addition the DC metro area gained even more Black population the last decade and jumped the Chicago MSA in total Black population. The three metro areas with largest Black population now in 2020 in the US are NY, Atlanta, and Washington DC.
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Old 04-07-2020, 04:01 PM
 
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This is actually good stuff. The one visit I made to Boston was six or seven years ago during my birthday weekend in December; I have a good friend who lives in Cambridge and works for one of the big hospitals up here so he hosted me. It was an enjoyable trip and I'd actually like to go back in the summer in the near future.
I'd say do it, as people may be surprised. I'd say go to the Cape and Martha's Vineyard as well.
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Old 04-08-2020, 06:59 AM
 
Location: Washington D.C.
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Seems both Chicago and DC lost many of its African-Americans last couple decades especially. I know Chicago's 200,000+ drop 2000 to 2010 made way for a few % total drop in city% to have the Hispanic % overtake it as second after White %.

DC also experienced a big drop last decade. Doesn't scream Black mecca unless you go by in a historical sense in evolution and past. Philadelphia did not experience such drop and shows in recent gains modestly in population, but Philly still got one of the lowest vote totals for this thread. Chicago could not push a gain in population overall with continued Black out-migrations it still deals with.

NYC clearly has its historical Black presence and history in influence as Chicago did. But I believe NYC's Black totals are being pressured downward in African-Americans. Though Black immigrants may sustain it better then other cities.

If current trends and population %s are used. Atlanta fits the bill. The poll not even close who wins to debate and can't be watered down.
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I know DC has been gaining black people from NYC and Jersey. I wonder if DC is gaining people from Philly too?

DC proper may have added more black people than any of the cities mentioned in the last decade? DC’s black population has been growing for over 10 years now. The white population is growing much faster, but DC is adding people from all races. The city isn’t losing population in any race.

From the US Census
US Census Fact Finder

2010 DC Population (White vs. Black)

Black Alone = 319,177
White Alone = 262,139

2017 DC Population (White vs. Black)

Black Alone = 338,623
White Alone = 328,231

2010-2017 DC Population (White vs. Black) Difference

Black Alone = +19,446 people
White Alone = +66,092 people
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Old 04-08-2020, 12:49 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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I knew you had the numbers somewhere. Thank you.
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Old 04-08-2020, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Houston(Screwston),TX
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Being hesitant to visit Boston is a major overreaction, nothing would ‘happen’ to you (i feel ridiculous even having to type that out$. Bill Burr is a comedian, making a familiar joke he’s slay not from Boston rather a suburb and is over 50 years old hasn’t lived in Massachusetts for decades so idk how well he can speak to Boston s culture today, probably not very well. Boston is 4x blacker than San Francisco and not much like San Francisco at all. Very different vibe and culture but sure the white culture is probably fairly similar. But also hesitating to visit Boston out of fear(?) is just silly most of the white people are wealthy nerdy liberal types who vote Warren or Bernie quite frankly White people don’t want any problems with black people in Boston. If Boston racists it’s more so because of wealth inequality and the fact that We move I pretty much two different Boston’s-not entirely, but close to it.

Basically the media doesn’t highlight the voice of Black Bostonians, especially not national media. People perspective of Boston is shaped largely on tweet, headlines, black people whon visited briefly for work and did no research in the city, people like Bill Burr not even from the city, and stories they heard about Boston in the 1960s and 1970s.i think for a long time after busing (Boston history is basically pre-busing, busing, and post-busing Boston powers are be didn’t want to embrace or show the diversity of the city and by the time it did it was too little too late.
Aww please fam, me being hesitant has nothing to do with me thinking something is going to happen to me. Growing up in the south more specifically East Texas we don't fear White people generally at all and I damn sure don't. My hesitation is more so a result of the negative perception of Black experiences. No different than what you think most of the rural south might be. I'm pretty sure your not rushing to visit some parts of the south that people portray as not being very welcoming to Black people. So don't get so bent out of shape over me using the term hesitation. I'm not writing Boston off just wasn't on the top of my list for that reason. But I've gained more interest after all this back and forth.
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