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Pretty much all the southern states have huge outward displays of racism by whites but i don't think that makes you less of a Black Mecca. That doesn't really have to do with black culture migration or success.
What's ironic is that the huge outward displays in the second and third revivals of the Klan weren't even in Atlanta. The biggest in the second era would be at the DNC in NYC and a mass parade in DC in the 20's, and there was practically no violent mass resistance to desegregation efforts or towards the other goals of the CRM in Atlanta during the 50's-60's and onward.
What's ironic is that the huge outward displays in the second and third revivals of the Klan weren't even in Atlanta. The biggest in the second era would be at the DNC in NYC and a mass parade in DC in the 20's, and there was practically no violent mass resistance to desegregation efforts or towards the other goals of the CRM in Atlanta during the 50's-60's and onward.
yea im more so talking about today where there are branches of poor southern whites who are very outward with their Klan membership, or racist attitudes. That type of overt racism can be fund all up and through Georgia, Texas, South Carolina alabama but i don't think it really has an impact on black culture today- not enough to make any given place not a black capital
yea im more so talking about today where there are branches of poor southern whites who are very outward with their Klan membership, or racist attitudes. That type of overt racism can be fund all up and through Georgia, Texas, South Carolina alabama but i don't think it really has an impact on black culture today- not enough to make any given place not a black capital
Every state in America is home to white nationalist groups. You have to be in a very rural and isolated area in the south generally to even run into any of these outward poor southern Whites. Even me growing up in East Texas, I’ve never ran into any outward white nationalist in my life. Oh there’s structural racism just like all of America. Oh there’s covert racism that I’ve encountered just like everywhere else but openly seeing the Klan or any other white nationalist group? Nah that’s not common. You have to really go out your way to find any white nationalist group at least in Texas. I mean besides the police force.
Every state in America is home to white nationalist groups. You have to be in a very rural and isolated area in the south generally to even run into any of these outward poor southern Whites. Even me growing up in East Texas, I’ve never ran into any outward white nationalist in my life. Oh there’s structural racism just like all of America. Oh there’s covert racism that I’ve encountered just like everywhere else but openly seeing the Klan or any other white nationalist group? Nah that’s not common. You have to really go out your way to find any white nationalist group at least in Texas. I mean besides the police force.
Redlionjr, Mutiny, and Bostonbornmassmade, I appreciate y'all using good sense on here. I have no ill-will towards Aceter but it's clear that he was on his second hurricane by trying to posit that argument. I don't dispute a kkk presence in Atlanta's history but that didn't make Atlanta's melanted population stagnant and weak. There is a legacy of blacks making something happen and thriving despite dealing with terrorism. Aceter, not sure why you'd focus on the opposition. To nitpick, I would use revitalize instead of birthplace because the kkk is a TN thing. Really, saying Atlanta is a kkk mecca is just an intellectually poor argument to push (especially when you come from a city that invented paper bag parties).
yea im more so talking about today where there are branches of poor southern whites who are very outward with their Klan membership, or racist attitudes. That type of overt racism can be fund all up and through Georgia, Texas, South Carolina alabama but i don't think it really has an impact on black culture today- not enough to make any given place not a black capital
I don't know about the whole Klan membership thing, but there definitely is a correlation between a city's history of racist violence, particularly during the Civil Rights era, and its current status as a Black capital. One major reason that Atlanta is a Black capital today is because it was more progressive in the area of race relations (though hardly perfect) than other Southern cities. It wasn't marred by violent racist incidents or riots during the Civil Rights era and the white political/civic elite had a gentlemen's agreement with Black civil rights leaders where political support was used to leverage positive changes for the Black community.
yea im more so talking about today where there are branches of poor southern whites who are very outward with their Klan membership, or racist attitudes. That type of overt racism can be fund all up and through Georgia, Texas, South Carolina alabama but i don't think it really has an impact on black culture today- not enough to make any given place not a black capital
What Klan members have you seen in person in the SOuth?Mutiny and I both grew up in small Southern areas and I never had more racism at me than when I first lived up North.
I live on Staten Island and I can tell you that was eye opening.
Ever been to Kennsington in Philly?
You should really be more careful with generalizations. Boston sure does have a reputation of blue collar racist whites. Very easy to find countless articles on how racist many think Boston is
Some also may go with schools in NE NJ like The Patrick School in Elizabeth, Hudson Catholic and St. Peter's in Jersey City, Don Bosco Prep in Ramsey and Paramus Catholic in Paramus, among others.
Black people going with private schools seems to be more of a thing in the Northeast and Midwest, as even in the Rust Belt cities, it is not uncommon to find Catholic or other private schools with substantial to high black percentages. Not to divulge too much, but to just illustrate the point, here are some in Upstate NY that come to mind: https://bishopmaginn.org/ https://nces.ed.gov/globallocator/sc...te&ID=00923969
What Klan members have you seen in person in the SOuth?Mutiny and I both grew up in small Southern areas and I never had more racism at me than when I first lived up North.
I live on Staten Island and I can tell you that was eye opening.
Ever been to Kennsington in Philly?
You should really be more careful with generalizations. Boston sure does have a reputation of blue collar racist whites. Very easy to find countless articles on how racist many think Boston is
I see them on documentaries, YouTube videos and in Charlottesville.
And with things like segregated proms which a misssippi school district had itill 2012,
the Jenna Six
Mission State Correctional facilities
Angola Prison Louisiana
the South Carolina church bombings, that man police shot in his back while he was running away,
White racists rallying in support of George Zimmerman
The KK tried to adopt a highway in Georgia a few years ago.
Massive KKK rally in South Carolina like 4 years ago-you won’t ever see that in Boston..
Miss Black Texas facing racist death threats
Just a huge abundance of what I’m saying
Forsyth County being Forsyth county ( until like 10 years ago)
You literally see anything I say about the south and have a visceral reaction. Take a deep breath
Here’s a few examples bro.. I could posts these for days. Not surprisingly the Internet s flooded with outward examples of southern racism..in case you’re in denial. But again not really important to what makes a black Mecca.
Here the Daily Show talks about Racism in Boston.Pay attention at 351 where they have a graph of where cities rank according to there welcoming of blacks.Boston was last.
In Kennsington in Philadelphia is known for there extreme racism
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The Mummers Parade, the predominantly white cultural phenomenon that has a 118-year history of being racist, sexist, and anti-LGBTQ, continued to offend marginalized groups on Tuesday. After recently instituted guidelines and mandatory sensitivity trainings reiterated the parade’s longstanding ban on performers wearing makeup that makes them look like another race, some performers found a new way to promote old stereotypes of Black people.
Forsyth County has had a huge South Asian population for at least 20 years.
I have a friend who is from Senegal who has a house there for 13 years. Forsyth now is one of the wealthiest counties in the South.
You cherry pick some places in a vast region where the majority of blacks live in the US and make claims as if its not just as big in other places.
You expect this stuff in rural areas but all across the Northeast its in the cities mainly where the largest groups of black reside.
If the Northern states had a larger black population ,you would see more racism.
So yes if you want to say this is true of the SOuth then you have to acknowledge how racist Boston is.
Maybe you should check your "visceral reaction" to Bostons racism
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