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The suggestion that NY and DC are in one group while Atlanta is in another
It doesn't tell the whole story, but it doesn't mean nothing either. It can give you a general idea of the overall urbanity of a city. Is it relevant that the Los Angeles UA is denser than the Tri State area? Not really, but when you look at the core of each, it makes perfect sense that one has only 8K ppsm while the other has nearly 30K.
Activity centers, retail, tourism, etc. Atlanta has all of these. People take the train to work and leisure as well. See? It almost seems as if you don't actually believe that an urban lifestyle is possible in the Sunbelt. To the same extent that it is in DC? No, but as you already said, this is common knowledge here.
Of course not, but this is no less accurate than suggesting that Atlanta doesn't deserve to mentioned in the same discussion as DC in terms of urbanity.
If you believe Atlanta proper can compare to DC proper in anyway in regards to urbanity, then there is no point discussing this further. We clearly are using different definitions for urbanity which makes a comparison impossible. You and I are now talking about apples and oranges because we don’t share a common definition.
It's "on the scale," but not on the most urban end of it. But this is all off-topic anyway.
Do you believe detached single family home neighborhoods can be apart of the urban core? I do not. That’s probably the most important part of this discussion. If you think they can be, that’s where we differ in definition making a comparison impossible. You mentioned in another thread that establishing definitions is crucial before even beginning this type of debate. You’re 100% right!
... so it's not at all as simple as being an apples and oranges comparison...
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Originally Posted by MDAllstar
... You and I are now talking about apples and oranges because we don’t share a common definition.
apples and oranges are both fruits.
they are both edible.
they are both round.
they both have seeds.
they both grow from trees.
they are both colorful.
they both have skin.
they both can make juice.
they both taste sweet.
...
they are kinda' more similar than they are different.
apples and oranges are both fruits.
they are both edible.
they are both round.
they both have seeds.
they both grow from trees.
they are both colorful.
they both have skin.
they both can make juice.
...
they are kinda' more similar than they are different.
Interesting, sounds kinda like Black and White people who are even more alike as human beings, yet nothing alike culturally in general.
Do you believe detached single family home neighborhoods can be apart of the urban core? I do not. That’s probably the most important part of this discussion. If you think they can be, that’s where we differ in definition making a comparison impossible. You mentioned in another thread that establishing definitions is crucial before even beginning this type of debate. You’re 100% right!
Somebody might want to tell cities like Charleston, Savannah, New Orleans, etc that they have to raze their downtown historic detached SFH neighborhoods in order to have a "real" urban core then.
This has gotten way off topic and I wasn't gonna say anything but it seems to be a double standard but why does my Atlanta people get upset when people say comparing Atlanta to Cities like DC especially New York is like comparing Apples and oranges but when other Cities like say Nashville is compared to Atlanta it wants to be considered light years ahead when in reality it's a closer comparison. The justification goes back in forth of reason why they should and are in the same class when in reality it's not especially density and population wise, especially NY.. I know how sensitive of subjects this can be..
This has gotten way off topic and I wasn't gonna say anything but it seems to be a double standard but why does my Atlanta people get upset when people say comparing Atlanta to Cities like DC especially New York is like comparing Apples and oranges but when other Cities like say Nashville is compared to Atlanta it wants to be considered light years ahead when in reality it's a closer comparison. The justification goes back in forth of reason why they should and are in the same class when in reality it's not especially density and population wise, especially NY.. I know how sensitive of subjects this can be..
Nashville isn't even in contention as a Black capital though so your point is pretty moot. This is the only reason NYC, DC, and Atlanta are all being compared here. Your pet city doesn't need to be part of every discussion.
Nashville isn't even in contention as a Black capital though so your point is pretty moot. This is the only reason NYC, DC, and Atlanta are all being compared here. Your pet city doesn't need to be part of every discussion.
Not about a pet city or the point and truth be told, this has gotten off topic any way.. I know my pet city isn't in this mix, it actually feels more culturally mixed and intergrated which is a good thing. Our Great city isn't a part of every discussion either and wasn't trying to be smart but just going by what I have noticed. I don't really believe in the Black capital scenario but if I did I wouldn't include NY in this factor due to the fact NY just looks so much more diverse and culturally mixed by population than say an Atlanta in spite of NY's high black population IMO.. same is true for many other cities.. Guess it's all about what flavor u like but just as a heads up, not an argument buddy but I know how it goes..
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