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CFSv2 right now doubling down on a blow torch December
At least this month is better than the last 2 Nov's by a few degrees. I can handle around 80 to 83 for highs compared to upper 80's and low 90's like it was in Nov of 2015 and 16. Just hate that we won't see much upper level enegry this fall- winter. No upper level support means no rain.
I still think a winter outcome for the eastern U.S. of either a volatile or cold pattern is most likely, perhaps simultaneously cold and volatile. As for front or back loading it seems hard to tell, so I won't venture a prediction on that.
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CFSv2 right now doubling down on a blow torch December
If it turns out anything like that blowtorch November has turned out so far I'll take it .
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Originally Posted by LKJ1988
I just see a flat upper level pattern for my area this winter. Just winter after winter of above normal temps for so many years now i have given up.
I hope for your sake that you can get something good soon weather-wise.
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Richmond, VA winter avg temp was above normal 7 times in 8 years between 1947 & 1954. People giving up on a cold below normal winters. Then all of a sudden 15 of next 17 winters were below normal from 1954-1971
1919-1933 (14 winters) 11 winters were above normal.
An example of medium-term climate change in the real world (rather than in could-be/if/maybe computer models).
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Aa i said months ago joe this fall- winter will be as warm as last years and rainfall amounts a touch higher than last years. This above normal crap has been going on for years and should tell people something is very wrong.
Not necessarily. If the winter turns out more like 2014 or 2015 then one might expect Florida to be warm, but on the other hand some very cold weather patterns were quite close to the peninsula both of those years and it would only have taken a bit more southeastward nudging in the weather pattern to have put Florida in the deep freeze.
This above normal crap has been going on for years and should tell people something is very wrong.
We need a bit more evidence than a calendar with a bunch of squiggles on it Climate change is very real, and it's also very sensationalized, and you're not helping with your bootleg thermostat you got in your backyard
We need a bit more evidence than a calendar with a bunch of squiggles on it Climate change is very real, and it's also very sensationalized, and you're not helping with your bootleg thermostat you got in your backyard
All anyone has to do it look at the highs and lows for the Tampa area for the last 3 years and you will see that about everyday is above normal my man. The ramp up on heating has been insane the last 6 years and really crazy the last 3 years. Something is wrong and i see no change.
I still think a winter outcome for the eastern U.S. of either a volatile or cold pattern is most likely, perhaps simultaneously cold and volatile. As for front or back loading it seems hard to tell, so I won't venture a prediction on that.
If it turns out anything like that blowtorch November has turned out so far I'll take it .
I hope for your sake that you can get something good soon weather-wise.
An example of medium-term climate change in the real world (rather than in could-be/if/maybe computer models).
Not necessarily. If the winter turns out more like 2014 or 2015 then one might expect Florida to be warm, but on the other hand some very cold weather patterns were quite close to the peninsula both of those years and it would only have taken a bit more southeastward nudging in the weather pattern to have put Florida in the deep freeze.
I pray i am very wrong, but i know better. I would love to see another Xmas of 1983 with a high of 38 and a low of 19. We got tropical plants displaced a 100 miles more to the north over the last near 30 years.
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Climate change is very real, and it's also very sensationalized, and you're not helping with your bootleg thermostat you got in your backyard
