Coronavirus in Massachusetts (Florida: tenant, move to, land)

[justyouraveragetenant]

Originally Posted by msRB311

meanwhile people are dying from spicy potato chips and car accidents galore.

COVID is just a bad cold now. Do we want to get crazy with masks and lockdowns for a cold? I could see in the beginning when people were scared by the media but everyone knows it's far less dangerous and just a bad cold.

[newenglandgal123]

Originally Posted by wolfgang239

Lots of unhinged hockey mom Karens in oversized vehicles down that way, not a surprise really

Although I'm not a Karen hockey mom, I do have an SUV (not an 'oversized' one, as in a Suburban or Expedition size) but more of a mid sized and I'd actually have to agree with you on this sentiment. Some of the most aggressive, uhinged drivers I encounter, second to the middle aged angry men in big pickups, are what appear to be these soccer/hockey moms in oversized SUV's. Very aggressive and tailgaiting behavior.

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by rach5

Huge jump in MA wastewater end of last week. The booster is coming too late for many. https://www.mwra.com/biobot/biobotdata.htm

Does *not* look that huge to me. Plus the severity of the current variant is far less.

[LeavingMA]

Originally Posted by suzy_q2010

No, there are not batches with "higher doses".

Yes, heart problems are rare. Myocarditis happens but almost universally resolves with no after effects.

No, you cannot "get the spike protein" in you from having sex with a vaccinated person.

No, the spike protein does not "shed", "even in sweat".

They were somewhat correct, but not completely. There are hot batches and a website that shows a higher rate of side effects than others. The fact is production of vaccines isn't perfect, and can have many issues.

https://howbadismybatch.com/

It would be more common and better data if big pharma didn't protect their product and claim everything is "safe and effective" (marketing statement). Especially with a brand new technology with no long term studies.

As far as sex from a vaccinated partner and shedding, that is still unknown. Pfizer in their clinical trials told men not to have sex for 2 months or something like that. So Pfizer was aware of it, but it is something that is plausible.

Shedding, see above...it is something that has been mentioned in clinical trials and talked about, but no evidence either way.

Myocarditis as I've mentioned in another post is not rare with this covid vaccine. It was a side effect listed in the trials. Of course depends on someone's definition of rare, but the fact many never heard of this and its being talked about and they are putting heart attack devices in schools now show something is going on. And it is way higher than other shots. Not once pre vaccine did I or anyone I talk to know about myocarditis...not did heart doctors like Peter McCullough ever see it in young people. So something is happening, and our officials are refusing to acknowledge it or talk about it probably due to conflict of interest as they pushed the shot on people that didn't need it.

[LeavingMA]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

Can't win with folks like you. If they streamline approvals, it breeds suspicion and conspiracy (a la how the original Covid vaccines were fast tracked) and that there's a government agenda to push vaccines down the public's throats. I, for one, as well as the scientific / medical community are glad that a rigorous process exists for approving new medications.

It isn't that rigorous, the same companies that create the product do their own trials and then submit what they want. Even with covid shot, they had around 44,000 in the trial but submitted on something like 180 people. Easy to cherry pick data or manipulate it. And it isn't like the FDA, CDC, and other three letter agencies are some incredible display of ethics. They are career bureaucrats with not enough oversight from our just as conflicted government.

Just look at how many products have gotten through that years and decades later caused cancer and tons of other issues. If someone wants to take an expirement shot than all to them, but they should never mandate it or discriminate against those that don't.

[suzy_q2010]

Originally Posted by LeavingMA

They were somewhat correct, but not completely. There are hot batches and a website that shows a higher rate of side effects than others. The fact is production of vaccines isn't perfect, and can have many issues.

https://howbadismybatch.com/

It would be more common and better data if big pharma didn't protect their product and claim everything is "safe and effective" (marketing statement). Especially with a brand new technology with no long term studies.

As far as sex from a vaccinated partner and shedding, that is still unknown. Pfizer in their clinical trials told men not to have sex for 2 months or something like that. So Pfizer was aware of it, but it is something that is plausible.

Shedding, see above...it is something that has been mentioned in clinical trials and talked about, but no evidence either way.

Myocarditis as I've mentioned in another post is not rare with this covid vaccine. It was a side effect listed in the trials. Of course depends on someone's definition of rare, but the fact many never heard of this and its being talked about and they are putting heart attack devices in schools now show something is going on. And it is way higher than other shots. Not once pre vaccine did I or anyone I talk to know about myocarditis...not did heart doctors like Peter McCullough ever see it in young people. So something is happening, and our officials are refusing to acknowledge it or talk about it probably due to conflict of interest as they pushed the shot on people that didn't need it.

The bad batch site is just another misuse of VAERS in order to advance an anti-vax agenda.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/craig-...lieve-anything

Pfizer did not tell men "not to have sex for 2 months or something like that". Explanation here.

https://www.thejournal.ie/factcheck-...19779-Jan2021/

The goal was to prevent pregnancies during the trial. Vaccine trials try to exclude pregnant women until safety in nonpregnant women has been studied. It has nothing to do with "shedding".

Shedding of spike proteins does not happen.

https://www.poynter.org/fact-checkin...o-harm-anyone/

Because you did not hear of myocarditis before the covid vaccines came out does not mean it did not exist, including in the pediatric population. If McCullough does not know that, he is a poor cardiologist.

From 2001. Many viruses and some bacteria and fungi can cause it as well as some non-infectious conditions. See Table 1.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2805590/

Myocarditis was not seen in the original mRNA vaccine trials. That is typical of uncommon adverse effects,

What is a "heart attack device"? If you mean Automated External Defibrillators (AEDs), that was happening well before the covid vaccines existed.

https://www.acc.org/about-acc/press-...ed-improvement

"WASHINGTON (Mar 27, 2017) - Automated external defibrillators are associated with increased survival of sudden cardiac arrest when installed in schools, yet only 17 out of 50 U.S. states require AED installation in at least some of their schools, according to an analysis published today in the Journal of the American College of Cardiology."

"A questionnaire study of sudden cardiac arrest in U.S. high schools determined that 2 in 50 U.S. high schools can expect a sudden cardiac arrest event each year. Several observational studies show an association between AED installation in schools and colleges with increased survival. Collapse to defibrillation time was shorter when administered by bystanders than by EMS (3.3 vs. 12.9 minutes). In schools with AED programs, the survival rates of students with cardiac arrests and a shockable rhythm ranged from 64 to 72 percent. AEDs in schools may also be deployed for teachers, coaches or sporting event spectators who may suffer cardiac arrest on school grounds. Because of their age these individuals are statistically at higher risk for cardiac arrest; more adults than children may be resuscitated by AEDs in schools and their environs."

Originally Posted by LeavingMA

It isn't that rigorous, the same companies that create the product do their own trials and then submit what they want. Even with covid shot, they had around 44,000 in the trial but submitted on something like 180 people. Easy to cherry pick data or manipulate it. And it isn't like the FDA, CDC, and other three letter agencies are some incredible display of ethics. They are career bureaucrats with not enough oversight from our just as conflicted government.

Just look at how many products have gotten through that years and decades later caused cancer and tons of other issues. If someone wants to take an expirement shot than all to them, but they should never mandate it or discriminate against those that don't.

Where do you get the idea that "they had around 44,000 in the trial but submitted on something like 180 people"? That is not true. Where did you get the figure of 180?

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-re...sults-landmark

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news...cine-publishes

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by suzy_q2010

Where do you get the idea that "they had around 44,000 in the trial but submitted on something like 180 people"? That is not true. Where did you get the figure of 180?

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-re...sults-landmark

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news...cine-publishes

Thank you. It's tedious, but facts and credible data are the only antidote to anecdotal BS.

[newenglandgal123]

Originally Posted by justyouraveragetenant

COVID is just a bad cold now. Do we want to get crazy with masks and lockdowns for a cold? I could see in the beginning when people were scared by the media but everyone knows it's far less dangerous and just a bad cold.

I don't think so, I had the first two shots and first booster....that winter I ended up with a cough so bad I couldn't even speak to make it thru a complete sentence as well as some odd rib pain that when x rayed showed no pneumonia or anything present. What else could it have been but Covid?! Never been that sick in years and I'm not a senior or immunocompromised either.

[newenglandgal123]

Who's getting the new trio of jabs this fall? https://whdh.com/news/updated-covid-...-fall-viruses/

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by newenglandgal123

Who's getting the new trio of jabs this fall? https://whdh.com/news/updated-covid-...-fall-viruses/

I'm gonna get 2 of the 3. Not 60 yet so can't get the RSV.