Coronavirus in Massachusetts (lawyer, weddings, bankruptcy)

[lrfox]

Originally Posted by rach5

Since the last update earlier this week, they actually jumped higher than pre-Labor Day last year, with colleges and schools about to open. AND we don't have a booster coming for another couple of weeks, well after the start of classes, so it can increase quite a lot unchecked. Likely also less remaining immunity, since the last boosters were so long ago, and we had a long lull in cases. And last fall was a mess.

Are we looking at different numbers? Unless I'm misreading these it looks like the numbers are still lower than the numbers for the same point last year.

[rach5]

Originally Posted by lrfox

Are we looking at different numbers? Unless I'm misreading these it looks like the numbers are still lower than the numbers for the same point last year.

You have to move inbetween the 7/1 and 10/1 data points (the fall "wave" peaked in late Sept/early Oct last year). The difference between this year and last year is especially stark for the North system (North slowly went down last summer until around Labor day, before starting to go back up. Obviously last summer was overall much worse than this summer, but wastewater now is worse than wastewater at this time last year - which does not bode well with schools/colleges starting up, and the delay in the boosters this year relative to last year; I got my bivalent booster exactly a year ago today! The next couple of weeks will be interesting).

[justyouraveragetenant]

This is stunning!!!

https://twitter.com/iluminatibot/sta...JDYm3xp_w&s=19

You won't believe it.

[jbgusa]

Originally Posted by massnative71

You mean like the Delta variant and the 475,000 people that died that year (2021 was by far the most deadly since onset). Honestly where do you come up with this stuff?

It is easy to point out the negative without proposing any workable solution. The only real solution in anyone’s tool kit is some form of lockdown and/or restriction in society’s operations.

Do you think money and children’s education grows on trees? Do you think society can operate locked down for an indefinite and arbitrary period? Do you think people communicate effectively without facial cues? School and religious services over Zoom?

Is life worthwhile without weddings, birthday parties, funerals? What people were advocating was a “temporary” but effectively permanent dystopia.

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by jbgusa

Do you think money and children’s education grows on trees? Do you think society can operate locked down for an indefinite and arbitrary period? Do you think people communicate effectively without facial cues? School and religious services over Zoom?

Is life worthwhile without weddings, birthday parties, funerals? What people were advocating was a “temporary” but effectively permanent dystopia.

Your notion is proven false, so you very predictably change the topic. Quit beating a dead horse.

[jbgusa]

Originally Posted by massnative71

Your notion is proven false, so you very predictably change the topic. Quit beating a dead horse.

I edited my post to connect it with the thread. Somehow my first sentence disappeared in dictation.

My point is that there are some problems that are inherently insoluble. I am in favor of vaccines, and I do not put particular stock in conspiracy theories involving the Wuhan laboratory or any others. Epidemic and pandemic‘s come and go. No one has a real solution, but politicians and scientists are afraid to say that they just don’t know. Therefore, they come up with a lot of theater that doesn’t solve much but looks impressive.

[redplum33]

Originally Posted by jbgusa

Therefore, they come up with a lot of theater that doesn’t solve much but looks impressive.

If you had been allowed to make the decisions, the death count would have increased by many millions and society probably wouldn't have recovered for decades.

What was done was necessary. Get over it.

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by jbgusa

I edited my post to connect it with the thread. Somehow my first sentence disappeared in dictation.

My point is that there are some problems that are inherently insoluble. I am in favor of vaccines, and I do not put particular stock in conspiracy theories involving the Wuhan laboratory or any others. Epidemic and pandemic‘s come and go. No one has a real solution, but politicians and scientists are afraid to say that they just don’t know. Therefore, they come up with a lot of theater that doesn’t solve much but looks impressive.

This here is exactly what you said.

Originally Posted by jbgusa

I think you are right. I think all of the upticks from early 2021 on were "crying wolf."

It's a very peculiar statement, considering how deadly the summer of 2021 was. Now that you were called out on it, you move the goalposts and carry on with irrelevant talking points.

[massnative71]

Originally Posted by redplum33

If you had been allowed to make the decisions, the death count would have increased by many millions and society probably wouldn't have recovered for decades.

What was done was necessary. Get over it.

With some of the Monday morning quarterbacking you see here, it's pretty clear that some have never assumed any kind of a leadership role.

[in_newengland]

Originally Posted by justyouraveragetenant

This is stunning!!!

https://twitter.com/iluminatibot/sta...JDYm3xp_w&s=19

You won't believe it.

I read the headline--still laughing.