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Old 08-23-2023, 10:15 AM
 
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When tested for covid, the flu does not produce a positive result for covid.
The maker of the pcr test explained it was not designed to isolate COVID . The PCR test can show many false positives especially when run with higher cycles.
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Old 08-23-2023, 10:20 AM
 
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Oh yes I also remember having to book times for amusement parks.
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Old 08-23-2023, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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The maker of the pcr test explained it was not designed to isolate COVID . The PCR test can show many false positives especially when run with higher cycles.
See my link above. Cycle number has nothing to do with the test being a false positive. The virus is there. The question is whether it is clinically significant.

PCR cannot tell whether the virus is infectious or not. That is the point the inventor, not maker, of PCR was making.
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Old 08-23-2023, 12:16 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Do you fight for freedom to not to fasten a safety belt?
Some laws and regulations make sense, such as seat belts. Some do not.
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Old 08-23-2023, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Eastern Massachusetts
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Some laws and regulations make sense, such as seat belts. Some do not.
It worth mentioning that
  1. You still must follow laws even if you think they do not make sense.
  2. Some laws are temporary and make sense only during certain times.
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Old 08-23-2023, 03:13 PM
 
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It worth mentioning that
  1. You still must follow laws even if you think they do not make sense.
  2. Some laws are temporary and make sense only during certain times.
Mandates are not laws they were not voted on. Read on civil disobedience.
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Old 08-23-2023, 03:31 PM
 
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See my link above. Cycle number has nothing to do with the test being a false positive. The virus is there. The question is whether it is clinically significant.

PCR cannot tell whether the virus is infectious or not. That is the point the inventor, not maker, of PCR was making.
I have heard many times the inventor said the PCR test was not meant to isolate a virus they discontinued use of them.it can not find COVID I have heard from doctors.
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Old 08-23-2023, 04:43 PM
 
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See my link above. Cycle number has nothing to do with the test being a false positive. The virus is there. The question is whether it is clinically significant.

PCR cannot tell whether the virus is infectious or not. That is the point the inventor, not maker, of PCR was making.
Here it is straight from the inventors mouth.....

In his words. https://rumble.com/v2dwgw2-dr.-kary-...-pcr-test.html
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Old 08-23-2023, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I have heard many times the inventor said the PCR test was not meant to isolate a virus they discontinued use of them.it can not find COVID I have heard from doctors.
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Here it is straight from the inventors mouth.....

In his words. https://rumble.com/v2dwgw2-dr.-kary-...-pcr-test.html
Like I said, PCR cannot tell whether it is seeing "live" virus or not. It can certainly find viral RNA or DNA. If not, Mullis's Nobel should be retracted.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN24420X

"The post begins with the words 'COVID-19 TEST a FRAUD?', then introduces the alleged quote from Mullis, who invented the PCR method in 1985 and was recognized for this achievement by being awarded the Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 1993 (here).

However, the quote is actually from an article written by John Lauritsen in December 1996 about HIV and AIDS, not COVID-19 (here).

The context around the quote shows Lauritsen is not saying PCR tests do not work. Instead, he is clarifying that PCR identifies substances qualitatively not quantitatively, detecting the genetic sequences of viruses, but not the viruses themselves: 'PCR is intended to identify substances qualitatively, but by its very nature is unsuited for estimating numbers. Although there is a common misimpression that the viral load tests actually count the number of viruses in the blood, these tests cannot detect free, infectious viruses at all; they can only detect proteins that are believed, in some cases wrongly, to be unique to HIV. The tests can detect genetic sequences of viruses, but not viruses themselves.'”

Even if Mullis had voiced a similar statement before his death in 2019, this quote does not mean the PCR test is unable to detect the presence of SARS-CoV-2 - the virus that causes COVID-19 - rather that it cannot determine whether the individual tested is infectious."
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Old 08-23-2023, 06:08 PM
 
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It worth mentioning that
  1. You still must follow laws even if you think they do not make sense.
  2. Some laws are temporary and make sense only during certain times.
do you work for the govt or the med profession? sounds like it!
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