Coronavirus in Massachusetts (buying, school, vs.)

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by redplum33

The reality is that an arbitrary date was chosen, there was a concerted effort to make sure it appeared to be the right decision, and covid fatigue has most people willing to accept it without questioning it.

The trend is the friend, when it comes to the wastewater sampling, not a particular day's data points. This data is bolstered by many other statistics such as inpatient admissions for Covid in our area, which are at an all-time low.

Believe me, I'm not one of those skeptics...I'm still masking most everywhere in public...but I acknowledge that we can't stay at the "emergency" level indefinitely. If nothing else, it will drive utter complacency the next time an emergency is warranted.

[LeavingMA]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

^that says it all about the credibility of the rest of this post.

But yet nobody listened to the expert that started the wastewater thing. People have trillions of viruses in them, doesn't mean they are active. So a wastewater sample can find any virus that is in a human, but doesn't mean it is spreading.

The fact we all thing we all have the same immune systems and viruses in us, is already a problem with the current situation.

[suzy_q2010]

Originally Posted by LeavingMA

But yet nobody listened to the expert that started the wastewater thing. People have trillions of viruses in them, doesn't mean they are active. So a wastewater sample can find any virus that is in a human, but doesn't mean it is spreading.

The fact we all thing we all have the same immune systems and viruses in us, is already a problem with the current situation.

The viruses in the wastewater do not have to be active. The wastewater analysis tells what viruses are circulating in the population that contributes the waste.

https://www.cdc.gov/nwss/wastewater-...r%20decreasing.

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• Wastewater surveillance captures presence of SARS-CoV-2 shed by people with and without symptoms. By measuring SARS-CoV-2 levels in untreated wastewater over time, public health officials can determine if infections are increasing or decreasing in a sewershed.
• Wastewater surveillance can be an early indicator that the number of people with COVID-19 in a community is increasing or decreasing.
• Unlike other types of COVID-19 surveillance, wastewater surveillance does not depend on people having access to healthcare, people seeking healthcare when sick, or availability of COVID-19 testing.

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[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by LeavingMA

But yet nobody listened to the expert that started the wastewater thing. People have trillions of viruses in them, doesn't mean they are active. So a wastewater sample can find any virus that is in a human, but doesn't mean it is spreading.

The fact we all thing we all have the same immune systems and viruses in us, is already a problem with the current situation.

Smallpox has been practically eradicated from earth. Show me where smallpox was found in wastewater?

SARS-CoV-2 in wastewater has proven to be a solid indicator of virus circulating in the community, especially now that home testing is the norm.

[LeavingMA]

Originally Posted by suzy_q2010

The viruses in the wastewater do not have to be active. The wastewater analysis tells what viruses are circulating in the population that contributes the waste.

https://www.cdc.gov/nwss/wastewater-...r%20decreasing.

"

• Wastewater surveillance captures presence of SARS-CoV-2 shed by people with and without symptoms. By measuring SARS-CoV-2 levels in untreated wastewater over time, public health officials can determine if infections are increasing or decreasing in a sewershed.
• Wastewater surveillance can be an early indicator that the number of people with COVID-19 in a community is increasing or decreasing.
• Unlike other types of COVID-19 surveillance, wastewater surveillance does not depend on people having access to healthcare, people seeking healthcare when sick, or availability of COVID-19 testing.

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Yes, fecal matter is so clean. I'm sure just as accurate as all those tests they sent us.

[LeavingMA]

Originally Posted by suzy_q2010

The viruses in the wastewater do not have to be active. The wastewater analysis tells what viruses are circulating in the population that contributes the waste.

https://www.cdc.gov/nwss/wastewater-...r%20decreasing.

"

• Wastewater surveillance captures presence of SARS-CoV-2 shed by people with and without symptoms. By measuring SARS-CoV-2 levels in untreated wastewater over time, public health officials can determine if infections are increasing or decreasing in a sewershed.
• Wastewater surveillance can be an early indicator that the number of people with COVID-19 in a community is increasing or decreasing.
• Unlike other types of COVID-19 surveillance, wastewater surveillance does not depend on people having access to healthcare, people seeking healthcare when sick, or availability of COVID-19 testing.

"

You proved my point, just because you can show a coronavirus (common cold) doesn't mean its a specific virus when it mutates all the time. It could be any virus of the common cold.

Just think for a few seconds, you have wastewater with millions or trillions of viruses mixed together and they can somehow pick out one specific virus.

I'm not saying wastewater info isn't important, but it isn't that simple. Stop buying into mass media scare tactics that make no common sense.

[LeavingMA]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

Smallpox has been practically eradicated from earth. Show me where smallpox was found in wastewater?

SARS-CoV-2 in wastewater has proven to be a solid indicator of virus circulating in the community, especially now that home testing is the norm.

If smallpox was eradicated, why vaccinate for it? Same as polio, why are they testing for it and saying they are finding it in wastewater.

It is no different than cancer, people have cancer cells, but doesn't mean they have cancer.

[Williepaws]

Originally Posted by LeavingMA

If smallpox was eradicated, why vaccinate for it? Same as polio, why are they testing for it and saying they are finding it in wastewater.

It is no different than cancer, people have cancer cells, but doesn't mean they have cancer.

do we really need a new smallpox vaccine-
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...-public-safety

[suzy_q2010]

Originally Posted by LeavingMA

Yes, fecal matter is so clean. I'm sure just as accurate as all those tests they sent us.

Yes, it is accurate. It is wastewater being tested, but it can also be looked for in feces. So can other viruses and bacteria.

Originally Posted by LeavingMA

You proved my point, just because you can show a coronavirus (common cold) doesn't mean its a specific virus when it mutates all the time. It could be any virus of the common cold.

Just think for a few seconds, you have wastewater with millions or trillions of viruses mixed together and they can somehow pick out one specific virus.

I'm not saying wastewater info isn't important, but it isn't that simple. Stop buying into mass media scare tactics that make no common sense.

Yes, they can pick out one specific virus.

Originally Posted by LeavingMA

If smallpox was eradicated, why vaccinate for it? Same as polio, why are they testing for it and saying they are finding it in wastewater.

It is no different than cancer, people have cancer cells, but doesn't mean they have cancer.

No one routinely vaccinates for smallpox.

Water is tested for polio if cases are identified, as happened in NY (one case) earlier this year. The virus in that case is derived from an oral vaccine.

https://www.pulmonologyadvisor.com/g...ing-in-the-us/

Originally Posted by Williepaws

do we really need a new smallpox vaccine-
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...-public-safety

The article you linked explains the situation.

[ben young]

Some folks must just enjoy living in fear.