Coronavirus in Massachusetts (fence, versus, safe)

[msRB311]

Perhaps it will change things. I remember feeling anxious and annoyed when people were in the office, train stores, really anywhere sick. I certainly didn't want to get sick from whoever the sick person was...and then when I get sick I take it home to my household.

I guess it irks me to see the people who were ok with showing up to birthday parties and letting everyone know oh we were up two nights ago all night with a stomach bug...good to see you though! being so paranoid about covid for 2 years now. These same people are posting pics of themselves wearing masks and getting vaxxed and they seem like even more assh*les to me now

We have barely seen my DH's brother and SIL because of covid because they're extremely anxious people now but they were the same people showing up with their nasty illnesses to places pre covid. I'm actually glad i dont have to see them. If anything good came out of covid it's that! ha.

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by porterhouse

The COVID enthusiasts are going to be disappointed with this news:

South Africa Hospitalization Rate Plunges 91% in Omicron Wave


"We have seen a decrease in a proportion of people who need to be on oxygen. They are at very low levels,” said Waasila Jassat, a researcher with the NICD. “For the first time there are more non-severe than severe patients in hospital."

Disappointed? Far from it. I hope this is real, and if Omicron takes over as the dominant strain in the US, we see a similar trend in severity.

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by Williepaws

CNN and local news is reporting that the flu vaccine is not very effective against the prevalent strain of flu! So another vaccine that isnt doing its job. CDC says around 700,000 people are hospitalized with the flu every yr. So more overloaded hospitals and it wont be all covid.

You wouldn't be alive today if vaccines didn't do their job, and if you hadn't been (against your will) vaccinated as a child. Just because vaccines are not 100% effective (tell me what is, by the way) is a totally BS reason to reject them outright.

[mdovell]

If vaccines didn't work how did we get rid of the severity and spread of most contagious diseases? Polio, small pox, measles etc.

[robr2]

Originally Posted by Williepaws

CNN and local news is reporting that the flu vaccine is not very effective against the prevalent strain of flu! So another vaccine that isnt doing its job. CDC says around 700,000 people are hospitalized with the flu every yr. So more overloaded hospitals and it wont be all covid.

Let's read the whole story - it's not that effective against one of the 4 strains it was designed for. H3N2 is the most prevalent but it also mutated in the recent past hence the vaccine being less effective. The flu shot is an educated guess based on what has been happening around the world and it takes 6 months to deliver those vaccines. Some years it's great, some year's not so much.

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by mdovell

If vaccines didn't work how did we get rid of the severity and spread of most contagious diseases? Polio, small pox, measles etc.

The current crop of anti-vaxxers needs a history lesson, not to mention a science lesson.

[msRB311]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

The current crop of anti-vaxxers needs a history lesson, not to mention a science lesson.

You don’t have to be an anti vaxxer to be pissed off that you got the vaccine and still got covid. I think many have lost faith in the vaccines. Anyone who is sick with covid now and was vaxxed likely doesn’t want to get a lecture in science. They’ve heard it.

[OutdoorLover]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

Disappointed? Far from it. I hope this is real, and if Omicron takes over as the dominant strain in the US, we see a similar trend in severity.

In a perfect world, everyone would get vaccinated. But this is the real world, and those who aren't already vaccinated are (nearly all) highly resistant to the idea. So if Omicron can sweep through and infect all of them, while killing very few and conferring useful immunity, it may be the next best thing to vaccination for those refuseniks.

[tribecavsbrowns]

Originally Posted by OutdoorLover

In a perfect world, everyone would get vaccinated. But this is the real world, and those who aren't already vaccinated are (nearly all) highly resistant to the idea. So if Omicron can sweep through and infect all of them, while killing very few and conferring immunity, it may be the next best thing to vaccination for those refuseniks.

It would only be the "next best thing" if you had a personal investment in the success of the vaccines. For everyone else, it would be equally as good. We just want the f***ing thing done with.

[YevTK]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

The current crop of anti-vaxxers needs a history lesson, not to mention a science lesson.

Anti smallpox vaccine pamphlet from 1885 makes the following claims:

DO NOT BE ALARMED BY THE SMALL-POX

1. “Vaccination does not prevent Small-pox in any cases”.
2. Vaccination causes diseases, ”Many children are killed outright, and thousands have their health ruined by it”.
3. “Vaccination does not lessen the severity or the fatality of Small-pox. The proportion of Vaccinated persons who have Small-pox has steadily increases as Vaccination has been extended – and the number of deaths in proportion to the cases is the same as ever. In the past epidemic in London, 92 percent, were in persons who had been Vaccinated or Re-vaccinated.
4. The proper and only safeguard required against Small-Pox is pure air, cleanliness, and temperance. Observing these three conditions, no one need have the slightest fear of contagion. Vaccination only increases the risk.”
5. The medical profession is profiting out of the vaccination
6. Forcing vaccination is an “outrage on personal liberty”
7. List of Doctors who oppose vaccination with anecdotal reports of the vaccine making things worse.

Sounds familiar?

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?...view=1up&seq=5