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Old 04-19-2022, 04:55 AM
 
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And that's pure speculation...to justify opposition against those public health measures.

And hate to burst your bubble--I know several who died from Covid who had a LOT more years left in them, and were healthy until they got it.
I don't have a bubble you do, and it's called feelings over facts and it's all about justifying everything that goes with your personal ideologies to make yourself feel better. Research the average age of COVID deaths (hint: it's over 80). And there have been plenty of studies done on the collateral damage of the restrictions. Read some. I'm not interested in killing off swaths of younger people in a futile effort to keep a virus from spreading to older more vulnerable people who will not be protected by those specific efforts in the first place.

Risk management was, and is, key but it doesn't fit your own personal ideologies and devotion to your favorite politicians. Your "erring on the side of caution" comment loses because most of the measures went against everything we've known from history about how viruses spread. People were sent home from the hospital with zero treatment to wait for a vaccine. What we didn't know became apparent by late 2020, and yet we pressed on with the same nonsense. But keeping doing your best to defend the indefensible. I guess you have to now because you bet your entire intellectual bank account into one losing game and seem incapable of changing course.

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Old 04-19-2022, 05:11 AM
 
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It was not intentional, as you're implying. It was erring on the side of extreme caution, because the disease was so new back in 2020.
Except that this incident happened in December 2021. By this time it was sheer punishment of the public by elected officials with keys to drastically more power than they knew what to do with.
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Old 04-19-2022, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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I don't have a bubble you do, and it's called feelings over facts and it's all about justifying everything that goes with your personal ideologies to make yourself feel better. Research the average age of COVID deaths (hint: it's over 80). And there have been plenty of studies done on the collateral damage of the restrictions. Read some. I'm not interested in killing off swaths of younger people in a futile effort to keep a virus from spreading to older more vulnerable people who will not be protected by those specific efforts in the first place.

Risk management was, and is, key but it doesn't fit your own personal ideologies and devotion to your favorite politicians. Your "erring on the side of caution" comment loses because most of the measures went against everything we've known from history about how viruses spread. People were sent home from the hospital with zero treatment to wait for a vaccine. What we didn't know became apparent by late 2020, and yet we pressed on with the same nonsense. But keeping doing your best to defend the indefensible. I guess you have to now because you bet your entire intellectual bank account into one losing game and seem incapable of changing course.
And in turn, I know about your style of risk management--just "eat right" and don't worry about Covid. Heck, if Americans truly cared about eating right, we could eliminate colon cancer and a host of other ailments. Espousing that philosophy is working great. No wonder people like Fauci who actually wanted to do something, rub you the wrong way.
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Old 04-19-2022, 09:32 AM
 
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And in turn, I know about your style of risk management--just "eat right" and don't worry about Covid. Heck, if Americans truly cared about eating right, we could eliminate colon cancer and a host of other ailments. Espousing that philosophy is working great. No wonder people like Fauci who actually wanted to do something, rub you the wrong way.
That's a wildly over-simplified fallacy but keep relying on illogical arguments and ad homs in an effort to defend your lost causes. And Dr. Fauci offered no medical treatment whatsoever to people who became ill with Covid - that is until they needed a vent. I don't call that "doing something."
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Old 04-19-2022, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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That's a wildly over-simplified fallacy but keep relying on illogical arguments and ad homs in an effort to defend your lost causes. And Dr. Fauci offered no medical treatment whatsoever to people who became ill with Covid - that is until they needed a vent. I don't call that "doing something."
Oh that's right...he should've offered them a sterilizing UV light treatment up one of their orifices, or a bleach treatment. Shame on him.
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Old 04-19-2022, 10:47 AM
 
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I know several who died from Covid who had a LOT more years left in them, and were healthy until they got it.
Correction -- They appeared healthy to you until they got it. You have no way of knowing someone's true health status.
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Old 04-19-2022, 10:48 AM
 
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Oh that's right...he should've offered them a sterilizing UV light treatment up one of their orifices, or a bleach treatment. Shame on him.

Right. Keep making CNN and MSNBC your main sources of knowledge. Probably haven't even cracked open a non-fiction book since school days?
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Old 04-19-2022, 10:49 AM
 
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Correction -- They appeared healthy to you until they got it. You have no way of knowing someone's true health status.
Surface and appearance is all this one knows. No critical thinking going on there.
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Old 04-19-2022, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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Correction -- They appeared healthy to you until they got it. You have no way of knowing someone's true health status.
Of course. Maybe I should have said "apparently" healthy...even in the eyes of their own family members. I was responding to the contention that this was only a disease of the old & already sick.
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Old 04-19-2022, 01:03 PM
 
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I am kind of surprised so many people had it that i knew this past week. people from age 30 to 60.

The standard flu seems to be running through my circle. I know many who's gotten that this past week vs covid.

I'm just getting over the Flu myself. I don't think i've ever had the flu before but it was not a fun time.
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