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Old 04-12-2022, 02:54 AM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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A review and meta-analysis of the relative risk of myopericarditis in approved Covid-19 vaccines versus several other vaccines, finds the Covid-19 vaccine risk within the same range, i.e. unremarkable. There are perhaps 100 million Americans who would literally rather die than take these vaccines, and yet there is no legitimate evidence supporting that stance.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...059-5/fulltext

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Old 04-12-2022, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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Almost as cool as a vaccine that really isn't a vaccine...until they had to change the definition.
Who are these mysterious "they"...the same ones who implanted 5G nanochips in each syringe?
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Old 04-12-2022, 07:35 AM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Almost as cool as a vaccine that really isn't a vaccine...until they had to change the definition.
My god, the incessent misinformation. Looking at a medical dictionary from 1965, or 1975, or 1985, or 1995 and this vaccine fits that definition perfectly.
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Old 04-12-2022, 10:07 AM
 
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I can’t get town wastewater test data but UMass-Dartmouth has three test points where their wastewater enters the town sewer system. They overlay COVID-19 testing for Bristol County on the graphs. As you’d expect, the wastewater is ramping up but the county COVID testing isn’t. People are home testing or not testing at all since such a large proportion is either vaccinated or was infected earlier.

https://www.umassd.edu/covid/wastewater/
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Old 04-12-2022, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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I can’t get town wastewater test data but UMass-Dartmouth has three test points where their wastewater enters the town sewer system. They overlay COVID-19 testing for Bristol County on the graphs. As you’d expect, the wastewater is ramping up but the county COVID testing isn’t. People are home testing or not testing at all since such a large proportion is either vaccinated or was infected earlier.

https://www.umassd.edu/covid/wastewater/
Yeah, I think official case counts are pretty useless now. Wastewater has proven to be the gold standard.
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Old 04-12-2022, 10:51 AM
 
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Who are these mysterious "they"...
They is the CDC, and they did change the definition last fall to fit the mRNA jab. Just a fact, which certainly seems curious as to its timing and motive.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/cor...254111268.html
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Old 04-12-2022, 10:58 AM
 
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Yeah, I think official case counts are pretty useless now. Wastewater has proven to be the gold standard.
Personally, I’d like to see this data easily available for all wastewater systems. People can then assess their risk for themselves. It’s not like it’s hard to buy N95 masks and the Chinese & Korean ear loop equivalent. If you want to mask up to protect yourself, you’re free to do so. I think the public money should be spent on ventilation starting with schools.
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Old 04-12-2022, 11:52 AM
 
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Harvard cases - go down to the "Total New Positive Cases by Week" graph. https://www.harvard.edu/coronavirus/...ovid-19-tests/
We are just swimming in covid - and this is a boosted and regularly tested population. Get your second booster if eligible.
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Old 04-12-2022, 11:57 AM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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They is the CDC, and they did change the definition last fall to fit the mRNA jab. Just a fact, which certainly seems curious as to its timing and motive.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/cor...254111268.html
I don't think any of us were parroting the CDC's definition of a vaccine, before or since Covid. As the other poster has pointed out, the Covid vaccine does fit the historic definition. And it's doing what it's supposed to do.
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Old 04-12-2022, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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Vaccines are normally not 100% effective, no matter what Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones say. Vaccines are also not normally free of side effects, or even completely free of quite serious side effects. Vaccines often require boosters. It's at one level puzzling, when people insist that these Covid-19 vaccines are somehow completely different from everything that's come before, and they're far worse - they don' work and are extremely dangerous, it's a conspiracy to achieve X,Y, and Z - very frightening, etc... but of course the reason so many people think that, is that there's been a persistent disinformation campaign, not only by Carlson and Jones, but by a chorus of prominent politicians, that tell lay people this nonsense over and over and over... so of course they believe it - they hear it everywhere. But it's still nonsense! And there's plenty of good information out there, if people are willing to listen far more to scientists and doctors about science and medicine, than they do to professional conspiracy mongers and politicians.
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