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Old 12-17-2021, 04:39 PM
 
Location: The ghetto
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6,345 new cases and 45 new deaths were reported today.
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Old 12-17-2021, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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Anti smallpox vaccine pamphlet from 1885 makes the following claims:

DO NOT BE ALARMED BY THE SMALL-POX
  1. “Vaccination does not prevent Small-pox in any cases”.
  2. Vaccination causes diseases, ”Many children are killed outright, and thousands have their health ruined by it”.
  3. “Vaccination does not lessen the severity or the fatality of Small-pox. The proportion of Vaccinated persons who have Small-pox has steadily increases as Vaccination has been extended – and the number of deaths in proportion to the cases is the same as ever. In the past epidemic in London, 92 percent, were in persons who had been Vaccinated or Re-vaccinated.
  4. The proper and only safeguard required against Small-Pox is pure air, cleanliness, and temperance. Observing these three conditions, no one need have the slightest fear of contagion. Vaccination only increases the risk.”
  5. The medical profession is profiting out of the vaccination
  6. Forcing vaccination is an “outrage on personal liberty”
  7. List of Doctors who oppose vaccination with anecdotal reports of the vaccine making things worse.

Sounds familiar?
I was referring to the mid-20th century vaccines. And the fact that a dozen or more vaccines have been mandated for school/college enrollment for decades, and are for the most part accepted without protest or drama.
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Old 12-17-2021, 09:54 PM
 
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I could get hit by a car today as well

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Old 12-18-2021, 04:29 AM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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Many of those idiotic 1885 claims sound much like the anti-vax wing today, so apparently some still have that 1885 understanding. "Don't be alarmed by the small pox" Small pox has a mortality rate of about 30%. When countries were developing biological weapons, small pox was the big focus. But yeah, don't be afraid of a little small pox - what could possibly go wrong?
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Old 12-18-2021, 05:02 AM
 
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Are we comparing 2021 covid to 1885 smallpox?
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Old 12-18-2021, 05:16 AM
 
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You haven't yet figured out the antics that a small core group of fools engage in here on a daily basis?
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Old 12-18-2021, 06:37 AM
 
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Are we comparing 2021 covid to a stomach bug?
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Old 12-18-2021, 06:43 AM
 
Location: The ghetto
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Are we comparing 2021 covid to mosquito bites?
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Old 12-18-2021, 07:51 AM
 
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Are you sure these people were protected during the summer, or was it just a less Covid-friendly season, as Jacksonville Beach is having now? Kind of makes you think, doesn't it?

The vaccines work, except after more than six months, or without wearing a face covering, or in winter, or at Thanksgiving, or inside a crowded church service, etc. But yeah, they definitely work. I mean...really?

But I agree, you have a lot of people calling themselves "vaccinated" who have, as you put it, "little to no protection." So why are we treating these people differently from people who haven't taken any shots at all?
Actually, 6 months of vaccines protection could be a stretch; according to Swedish 9 months study as well as our own Mayo Clinic -5 states- 6 months study - when Delta became dominant- the Pfizer protection according to Mayo dropped precipitously to in range of 13%- 62% only in 1 month ( they study ended by the time Delta took over in July)
The Swedish study - not peer reviewed- shows negative protection for some age groups.

Todays news from UK- regarding their first 1800+ Omicron confirmed cases shows 0-19% protection after 2 shots and 50-75% after booster.

We need to focus on HVAC, UV-C lights in buildings and better treatments; not holding my breath for better vaccines

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Old 12-18-2021, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Cleveland
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Many of those idiotic 1885 claims sound much like the anti-vax wing today, so apparently some still have that 1885 understanding. "Don't be alarmed by the small pox" Small pox has a mortality rate of about 30%. When countries were developing biological weapons, small pox was the big focus. But yeah, don't be afraid of a little small pox - what could possibly go wrong?
The other way of looking at this is you're pointing at people's objections to the effort to fight a virus with a 30% mortality rate and saying that because they were wrong, people are also wrong to voice similar-sounding objections in regard to fighting a virus with a 0.6% mortality rate.
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