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History has no colour and it doesn't belong to anyone, plus this is public forum so who writes here is none of your concern.
Secondly, nobody is forcing anything down anybody's throats, there are simple stated facts, nothing else.
Thirdly, 90% of threads here are about world wars, Hitler/Stalin and American history, African history isn't certainly prominent here.
In every forum across the Internet, you can find white people arguing about Ancient Egypt and the Moors. It's not just this site, friend. Euros speak as if they're the authority on the subject. If anything, this is an argument between black people and Arab people yet, everywhere across the net, whites interject themselves into the conversation. You rarely, if ever, see Chinese/Japanese/Korean/Indian people chiming in on what color the Egyptians or the Moors were. They know it doesn't concern them.
In every forum across the Internet, you can find white people arguing about Ancient Egypt and the Moors. It's not just this site, friend. Euros speak as if they're the authority on the subject. If anything, this is an argument between black people and Arab people yet, everywhere across the net, whites interject themselves into the conversation. You rarely, if ever, see Chinese/Japanese/Korean/Indian people chiming in on what color the Egyptians or the Moors were. They know it doesn't concern them.
I'm sure you can clearly distinguish white people (which by the way doesn't really mean anything like saying Africans) on the Internet and I'm sure you have a perfect knowledge of statistics about this.
Anyway, it doesn't matter: what people can discuss or cannot is none of your concern, this is a public forum where everybody can post.
I'm sure you can clearly distinguish white people (which by the way doesn't really mean anything like saying Africans) on the Internet and I'm sure you have a perfect knowledge of statistics about this.
Anyway, it doesn't matter: what people can discuss or cannot is none of your concern, this is a public forum where everybody can post.
Considering most people use their Facebook accounts when they post on various websites, you actually can
Then there's Stormfront. I'm sure Asian/Indian people don't post there. They frequently discuss African history there despite being a White Nationalist forum.
Then there's Youtube, Yahoo Answers and Reddit. I doubt most of the people on there aren't white. I doubt most of the people on City Data aren't white.
You are well within your right to scream from the moutaintop about anything you please but, it doesn't mean anyone has to listen. You'll never be in the position to speak with authority about anything involving African history. It doesn't belong to you.
Considering most people use their Facebook accounts when they post on various websites, you actually can
Then there's Stormfront. I'm sure Asian/Indian people don't post there. They frequently discuss African history there despite being a White Nationalist forum.
Then there's Youtube, Yahoo Answers and Reddit. I doubt most of the people on there aren't white. I doubt most of the people on City Data aren't white.
You are well within your right to scream from the moutaintop about anything you please but, it doesn't mean anyone has to listen. You'll never be in the position to speak with authority about anything involving African history. It doesn't belong to you.
Listen, I don't know how to make it any simpler and I won't argue any more: if someone says that "Moor" derives from the Ancient Greek for "black", this is false no matter the skin colour of the poster, and anybody can say that it is false, whether he is Black, White or Blue.
In history facts give authority, not the colour of skin, end of the debate.
In every forum across the Internet, you can find white people arguing about Ancient Egypt and the Moors. It's not just this site, friend. Euros speak as if they're the authority on the subject. If anything, this is an argument between black people and Arab people yet, everywhere across the net, whites interject themselves into the conversation. You rarely, if ever, see Chinese/Japanese/Korean/Indian people chiming in on what color the Egyptians or the Moors were. They know it doesn't concern them.
You are wrong using your faulty logic the question of the color of the Moors should then discussed between Iberians and the Berbers from northern Morocco and none of the one's I have ever communicated with on the subject identify as Arab or Black, you may want to check your facts before speaking for Berbers. The Moors lived in the peninsula where my ancestors are from. Exactly how do you connect to the Moors I'm not seeing it? Egyptian nobility were in the south of my country of origin for five centuries. How exactly do you connect to the Egyptians I'm not seeing any connection?
You are wrong using your faulty logic the question of the color of the Moors should then discussed between Iberians and the Berbers from northern Morocco and none of the one's I have ever communicated with on the subject identify as Arab or Black, you may want to check your facts before speaking for Berbers. The Moors lived in the peninsula where my ancestors are from. Exactly how do you connect to the Moors I'm not seeing it? Egyptian nobility were in the south of my country of origin for five centuries. How exactly do you connect to the Egyptians I'm not seeing any connection?
I'm not using faulty logic. I had moved on to another subject and you were confused. If I recall correctly, "Ancient Egypt" was in the paragraph you quoted. When I said it was a conversation between "Blacks" and "Arabs", I was referring to the fact that Egypt was either initially a "Black" civilization or always an "Arab" civilization depending on which school of thought you follow. Thus, any argument regarding it should really involve those two groups. But often the loudest group in this debate are people of Caucasian descent, people who have no skin in the game whatsoever.
Maybe I should have said "African/Arab", so you wouldn't be confused.
The same thing applies to The Moors. A discussion between "Africans" and "Arabs".
I'm of African descent. I'll talk about anything involving Africa very much. From Egypt, to Mali, Kanem-Bornu, Zulu, Zimbabwe, Axum, Nubia, Punt, Yam, Songhai, even the Moors if I so well please. Because it's all African history. The same way whites marvel at and study different civilizations/peoples from European history (Romans, Greeks, Celts, Normans, Napoleonic France, Nazi Germany, Tudors/Yorks/Lancasters, Spain/Portugal etc.).
My issue is with the superiority complex of most whites. They think they can dictate to other groups what they are, what they were, what they did and what they didn't do. And that their opinion is final. Its the same arrogance that fuels white supremacy, fueled slavery, and fueled the Scramble for Africa. Just think, that at one point, Europeans were so arrogant, they saw no problem with coming into a foreign land and telling the natives there that THEY, the outsiders, were forming new countries and that the tribes that may have been rivals or didn't see each other as kin were now all countrymen living within their false arbitrary borders. Arrogance. Like I said before, in Mexico or China, its not a hot debate what race the Moors or the Egyptians were. Nobody cares. It's only in North America. Because white people have a twisted obsession with Blacks and feel the need to interject themselves in any conversation that deals with our history.
I'm not using faulty logic. I had moved on to another subject and you were confused. If I recall correctly, "Ancient Egypt" was in the paragraph you quoted. When I said it was a conversation between "Blacks" and "Arabs", I was referring to the fact that Egypt was either initially a "Black" civilization or always an "Arab" civilization depending on which school of thought you follow. Thus, any argument regarding it should really involve those two groups. But often the loudest group in this debate are people of Caucasian descent, people who have no skin in the game whatsoever.
Maybe I should have said "African/Arab", so you wouldn't be confused.
The same thing applies to The Moors. A discussion between "Africans" and "Arabs".
I'm of African descent. I'll talk about anything involving Africa very much. From Egypt, to Mali, Kanem-Bornu, Zulu, Zimbabwe, Axum, Nubia, Punt, Yam, Songhai, even the Moors if I so well please. Because it's all African history. The same way whites marvel at and study different civilizations/peoples from European history (Romans, Greeks, Celts, Normans, Napoleonic France, Nazi Germany, Tudors/Yorks/Lancasters, Spain/Portugal etc.).
My issue is with the superiority complex of most whites. They think they can dictate to other groups what they are, what they were, what they did and what they didn't do. And that their opinion is final. Its the same arrogance that fuels white supremacy, fueled slavery, and fueled the Scramble for Africa. Just think, that at one point, Europeans were so arrogant, they saw no problem with coming into a foreign land and telling the natives there that THEY, the outsiders, were forming new countries and that the tribes that may have been rivals or didn't see each other as kin were now all countrymen living within their false arbitrary borders. Arrogance. Like I said before, in Mexico or China, its not a hot debate what race the Moors or the Egyptians were. Nobody cares. It's only in North America. Because white people have a twisted obsession with Blacks and feel the need to interject themselves in any conversation that deals with our history.
Which African country are you from?
The Moors where in my country of origin for hundreds of years and I carry a little of their DNA this topic is of interest to me I don't have a superiority complex. The two Berbers that I briefly communicated with don't identify as black even though they both carry about 10% West and and East African DNA twice as much East African as West African. I carry about 5% Berber DNA and about .04% Sub-Saharan African DNA half from West Africa on the Cameroon/Nigeria border area and half from Eritrea/Ethiopia.
You are wrong using your faulty logic the question of the color of the Moors should then discussed between Iberians and the Berbers from northern Morocco and none of the one's I have ever communicated with on the subject identify as Arab or Black, you may want to check your facts before speaking for Berbers.
Dude, the crack head nubian olmecs are obsessed with skin color and are the ideological descendants of the racialists of the 18th - early 20th century, they just put on afrocentric spin on it.
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Exactly how do you connect to the Moors I'm not seeing it? Egyptian nobility were in the south of my country of origin for five centuries. How exactly do you connect to the Egyptians I'm not seeing any connection?
Yep, it seems they're ashamed not only of their American history but also of their origin from the people of the slave coast/Gulf of Guinea and Angola region.
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Originally Posted by AFP
The Moors where in my country of origin for hundreds of years and I carry a little of their DNA this topic is of interest to me I don't have a superiority complex. The two Berbers that I briefly communicated with don't identify as black even though they both carry about 10% West and and East African DNA twice as much East African as West African. I carry about 5% Berber DNA and about .04% Sub-Saharan African DNA half from West Africa on the Cameroon/Nigeria border area and half from Eritrea/Ethiopia.
Oh be careful of falling into the trap of racializing everything. Genotype, phenotype and culture doesn't always come together as a package and people can't always be categorized into neatly subdivided 'oids, no matter how much American imperial racialists prefer they do.
Dude, the crack head nubian olmecs are obsessed with skin color and are the ideological descendants of the racialists of the 18th - early 20th century, they just put on afrocentric spin on it.
Yep, it seems they're ashamed not only of their American history but also of their origin from the people of the slave coast/Gulf of Guinea and Angola region.
Oh be careful of falling into the trap of racializing everything. Genotype, phenotype and culture doesn't always come together as a package and people can't always be categorized into neatly subdivided 'oids, no matter how much American imperial racialists prefer they do.
This is true I was attempting to illustrate that. I don't adhere to the ridiculously stupid one drop rule theory.
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