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Old 06-01-2015, 01:25 PM
 
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African Americans ey? You gotta lay off the medical marijuana, man.
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This post doesn't even deserve a response it is so out there in left field that it is pure rubbish good for lining a trash can not based on any accurate facts. You do realize that African Americans are of mixed ancestry primarily West African with significant European and a minor Native American admixture that is unique to North America. The first recorded child of African ancestry born in America was born in St. Augustine, Florida on January 3, 1606 that is about 900 years after 711. You signed in to post this rubbish and label people bigots and infidels what a joke, you must have been looking in the mirror.
I it possible he employing a little sarcasm? I did not respond because I was not sure.

 
Old 06-01-2015, 05:17 PM
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I it possible he employing a little sarcasm? I did not respond because I was not sure.
I don't think so infidel is a derogatory term it's a serious word when you take the entire content of the post into consideration.
 
Old 06-01-2015, 05:18 PM
 
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"Mauro" in Italian doesn't mean "dark skinned", it means either a proper name or the ancient name of the inhabitants of the Roman region of Mauretania.
"Moor" is "Moro" in Italian but it doesn't mean "dark skinned", it means someone olive skinned or someone with brown hair.
I'm afraid that's incorrect. In Italian, the word is spelled "Moro", derived from the Latin "Mauro". And it does mean "dark skinned" or "Moorish".
 
Old 06-02-2015, 03:59 AM
 
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I'm afraid that's incorrect. In Italian, the word is spelled "Moro", derived from the Latin "Mauro". And it does mean "dark skinned" or "Moorish".
I'm afraid I speak Italian natively.
"Moro" is used for someone tanned or slightly darker, it doesn't mean an African and in its old usage (for the Muslims Moors) it never meant Black Africans but North Africans.
Do you have brown hair? Then you might be a Moor as well in Italian.
 
Old 06-02-2015, 05:25 AM
 
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I'm afraid I speak Italian natively.
"Moro" is used for someone tanned or slightly darker, it doesn't mean an African and in its old usage (for the Muslims Moors) it never meant Black Africans but North Africans.
Do you have brown hair? Then you might be a Moor as well in Italian.

So then, you are now agreeing that the word means what I said it means, in Italian, instead of just meaning someone who lives in Mauritania or a proper name. I said it was the Italian word for a Moor. I never said it meant black Africans, nor would I agree that the Moors were black Africans. Because they weren't.

Being a native speaker doesn't ensure that you know the definition of every word in that language. I doubt that there are many people on the planet who could lay claim to that ability, no matter what language they speak.
 
Old 06-02-2015, 07:01 AM
 
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So then, you are now agreeing that the word means what I said it means, in Italian, instead of just meaning someone who lives in Mauritania or a proper name. I said it was the Italian word for a Moor. I never said it meant black Africans, nor would I agree that the Moors were black Africans. Because they weren't.

Being a native speaker doesn't ensure that you know the definition of every word in that language. I doubt that there are many people on the planet who could lay claim to that ability, no matter what language they speak.
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Mauro in Italian means "dark skinned" or "Moor"
which is false since Mauro is either a proper name or the old name for the inhabitants of the Roman region of Mauretania.
As I said in the reply "Moro" means "Moor" (both the name and the adjective) and someone who is olive skinned, like a Berber or an Arab.
I don't know you but for "darker skinned" I mean someone who is practically Black and in this case "Moro" is never used.
If you mean with "darker skinned" people from nowadays North Africa (i.e. Arabs and Berbers) then ok, otherwise no.
 
Old 06-02-2015, 10:26 AM
 
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Moors, as from the Classical and Medieval eras indicate berberiscs, which are caucasics and do have a remote origin in the Middle East.

 
Old 06-23-2015, 08:38 AM
 
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OP: Yes, it's clear the Moors were Black. (The question was were the Moors "BLACK" not African). Historical pictures, writings, and even Shakespeare portrayed the Moors as very dark human beings. Like my grandmother used to say, they had white paint, they had yellow paint, they had red paint and they had BLACK paint. They knew what they were painting in ancient times! If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck...you know the rest! Stop trying to alter history.
 
Old 06-23-2015, 08:43 AM
 
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Moors, as from the Classical and Medieval eras indicate berberiscs, which are caucasics and do have a remote origin in the Middle East.

Sooo... is this a moor or a berber? What is the source? Most dark moor pictures on these posts had captions containing the word "moor"...
 
Old 06-23-2015, 08:45 AM
 
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You said that :

which is false since Mauro is either a proper name or the old name for the inhabitants of the Roman region of Mauretania.
As I said in the reply "Moro" means "Moor" (both the name and the adjective) and someone who is olive skinned, like a Berber or an Arab.
I don't know you but for "darker skinned" I mean someone who is practically Black and in this case "Moro" is never used.
If you mean with "darker skinned" people from nowadays North Africa (i.e. Arabs and Berbers) then ok, otherwise no.
So what is the Italian word for a black person?
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