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Yes, the Moors were a "Black". They showed you exactly who they were. Why would they depict themselves in such a manner if they didn't look this way? The Aboriginal Arabs were what we now refer to as Black and look no different from today's African American that you ride next to on the bus (quite literally). This has been written about in many books by scholars both Black and European (so called White). The White Arab that you see dominating North African (aka Middle East) today conquered the land from the Original people there (Blacks). It is the White Arab that dominates the region today however it was not always this way. Black Arabs were in Arabia thousands of years before White got there and assimilated into the culture and religion (Islam). Even White Arab scholars know this.
Would you like some references to where you could find out this information for yourself?
I'm a Moore. For years I would always think to myself, what does my last name mean? Once I finally made the decision pursue
Yes, the Moors were a "Black". They showed you exactly who they were. Why would they depict themselves in such a manner if they didn't look this way? The Aboriginal Arabs were what we now refer to as Black and look no different from today's African American that you ride next to on the bus (quite literally). This has been written about in many books by scholars both Black and European (so called White). The White Arab that you see dominating North African (aka Middle East) today conquered the land from the Original people there (Blacks). It is the White Arab that dominates the region today however it was not always this way. Black Arabs were in Arabia thousands of years before White got there and assimilated into the culture and religion (Islam). Even White Arab scholars know this.
Would you like some references to where you could find out this information for yourself?
I'm a Moore. For years I would always think to myself, what does my last name mean? I never could understand why this young white girl, same age as me has the same last name as I but looks completely opposite from me. Once I finally made the decision to pursue college (considering I wasn't the "college type") I found myself (but not to this extent). In 2013 my dad told me he had a documentary he wanted me to watch. I watched it and I was impressed but had lots of questions. Still to this day I do. I was talking to a friend of mines about the mors and what I thought they were. She told me that I was wrong about my knowledge of them and that they were Muslims who invaded the British. She also mentioned that it's a slave name that was given to us. I really couldn't debate and go deeper with her because I didnt have any reliable resources to where I could be as confident as her. She's highly educated, extremely smart, older and someone I look up too. She's also from Trinidad. At the end of our conversation she told me that I made some good valid points and she did as well. That conversation has pushed me to do this. Im so not the social media type or quick to just be as open like this at all. I really pushed myself to do this because I want to weigh my options on what appears to be more factual. Now that I'm at the end I see the topic review. Are these the references?
Good proof that... a 16th century playwright who never left England.
MODERATORS...recently I moved that a certain racist thread on the Olmecs be locked based on the fact that it had been proven without a doubt that the Olmecs were Mexican and nothing but. Any further effort to "claim" the Olmecs as Africans were nothing but naked racism. The request was granted.
This is a similar situation. Undoubtedly there were black African Moors, but it has been proven beyond the shadow of a doubt with artwork, genetics, etc. that they were primarily North Africans as we know then today, and the term either was originally or came to be used generically to entail any North African Muslims, even white ones. It is not quite as bad as trying to out right co-opt Mexican history for Africa, but it is similarly an incorrect conclusion driven by racial animus.
I am nobody, but my humble recommendation is also that this thread has run its course and bumping it is pointless. Those who want to claim and bully others into thinking that the Moors were EXCLUSIVELY a black race are not going to undo the evidence represented that they are not, so what exactly it the point?
The majority of the Moors were of African descent.
African does not equal black, as we have demonstrated so many times.
North Africans are a mix of "African" haplogroups, and haplogroups from Eurasian who back-migrated, mostly in the stone ages. But even the "African: dos not equal "black." North Africa is not tropical, but on a similar latitude to the Middle east, so everyone living there for millennia evolved to look like Middle easterners, regardless of genetics.
It is astonishing how many of these cultural theft threads come up... black Egyptians, black moors, black Jews, black Greeks, black Mexicans, black Cleopatra, black Hannibal...why not just talk about people who actually were black?
Negative. The Moors were and are just dark skinned North Africans. Steer far away from these delusional black groups( Moorish Americans, Wa****aw, Yamassee)calling themselves Moors and are not, they just try to spread Afrocentric lies. The fact is these Moorish people carry different features from very dark to very light. Afrocentrics live in a fantasy world making it seem that EVERY dark skinned individuals are black. However, that is not the case they are just going by that one drop rule nonsense which is not even legit but started by Eurocentrics themselves. I would encourage these pro black folks to learn the etymology of the word they are using. No the Moors were not black even the terms Moros, Mauros, Moro, Moreno, etc is defined as being dark not black.
African does not equal black, as we have demonstrated so many times.
North Africans are a mix of "African" haplogroups, and haplogroups from Eurasian who back-migrated, mostly in the stone ages. But even the "African: dos not equal "black." North Africa is not tropical, but on a similar latitude to the Middle east, so everyone living there for millennia evolved to look like Middle easterners, regardless of genetics.
It is astonishing how many of these cultural theft threads come up... black Egyptians, black moors, black Jews, black Greeks, black Mexicans, black Cleopatra, black Hannibal...why not just talk about people who actually were black?
I'm a Moore. For years I would always think to myself, what does my last name mean? I never could understand why this young white girl, same age as me has the same last name as I but looks completely opposite from me. Once I finally made the decision to pursue college (considering I wasn't the "college type") I found myself (but not to this extent). In 2013 my dad told me he had a documentary he wanted me to watch. I watched it and I was impressed but had lots of questions. Still to this day I do. I was talking to a friend of mines about the mors and what I thought they were. She told me that I was wrong about my knowledge of them and that they were Muslims who invaded the British. She also mentioned that it's a slave name that was given to us. I really couldn't debate and go deeper with her because I didnt have any reliable resources to where I could be as confident as her. She's highly educated, extremely smart, older and someone I look up too. She's also from Trinidad. At the end of our conversation she told me that I made some good valid points and she did as well. That conversation has pushed me to do this. Im so not the social media type or quick to just be as open like this at all. I really pushed myself to do this because I want to weigh my options on what appears to be more factual. Now that I'm at the end I see the topic review. Are these the references?
Moor is not even a tribal name just a description. Those tribes in Africa were not even tribally classified as Moors it was foreigners who labeled them as such. Same as how Eurocentrics branded negroes as blacks later on. Moor was not a name given of honor but a misnomer.
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I'm a curious "Moore"
