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Old 06-03-2022, 11:17 PM
 
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Now let us see what kind of people it was who were doing the wailing and teeth gnashing
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There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out

And, behold, there are last which shall be first, and there are first which shall be last.

Here Jesus is telling religious fundamentalist that they are the ones who will be wailing and gnashing their teeth, then moments later tells them they will be the last ones to enter in.

Take off your bible goggles and you will see all what you are missing when reading the scriptures.
Don't be stupid. Jesus doesn't put His own people into hell.

Those who believe in Jesus and what He did for them on the Cross are delivered from hell via that faith.

The Bible teaches that we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand.

Therefore, it is those who don't have faith in Jesus Christ who will be consigned to hell in the final judgment.

 
Old 06-03-2022, 11:19 PM
 
Location: New England
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Don't be stupid. Jesus doesn't put His own people into hell.

Those who believe in Jesus and what He did for them on the Cross are delivered from hell via that faith.

The Bible teaches that we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand.

Therefore, it is those who don't have faith in Jesus Christ who will be consigned to hell in the final judgment.
You still have a lot to learn about hell, but being stiff-necked(an observation) it will take a ride to Damascus experience for you to let go of your beliefs about it.
 
Old 06-03-2022, 11:35 PM
 
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You still have a lot to learn about hell, but being stiff-necked(an observation) it will take a ride to Damascus experience for you to let go of your beliefs about it.
Yes, it is clear to me that you are observing a speck in my eye.
 
Old 06-04-2022, 01:46 AM
 
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Yes, it is clear to me that you are observing a speck in my eye.
The beam in your eye being that you don't believe the teachings of the Bible.
 
Old 06-04-2022, 06:19 AM
 
Location: the Kingdom of His dear Son
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"Let his love continually pour from you to one another, because God is love. Everyone who loves is fathered by God and experiences an intimate knowledge of him. The one who doesn’t love has yet to know God, for God is love. The light of God’s love shined within us when he sent his matchless Son into the world so that we might live through him. This is love: He loved us long before we loved him. It was his love, not ours. He proved it by sending his Son to be the pleasing sacrificial offering to take away our sins. Delightfully loved ones, if he loved us with such tremendous love, then loving one another should be our way of life! No one has ever gazed upon the fullness of God’s splendor. But if we love one another, God makes his permanent home in us, and we make our permanent home in him, and his love is brought to its full expression in us." ~TPT


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc6SSHuZvQE
 
Old 06-04-2022, 07:27 AM
 
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Nothing that originates in God is evil; so, no.

You also seem to think that God is applying torture methods to people in hell.

This is the actual reality, in answer to the Psalmist's prayer:

Psa 11:6, Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup.
Psa 11:7, For the righteous LORD loveth righteousness; his countenance doth behold the upright.
Do you think God is reigning literal fire and brimstone onto people's souls? Do you think people are burning in literal fire?
 
Old 06-04-2022, 08:13 AM
 
Location: New England
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Do you think God is reigning literal fire and brimstone onto people's souls? Do you think people are burning in literal fire?
It is really hard to comprehend how we could have ever believed such a thing in the first place. I am not sure where you stand with this, but I honestly believe the belief in ET is rooted in seeing yourself totally depraved and unworthy in the eyes of God, rather than seeing to the true essence of our being which is made in love, out of love, loved beyond measure by God and of his lovely image, and if you happen to see yourself depraved and unworthy, then take your eyes off yourself and look to the one who IS love manifested.
 
Old 06-04-2022, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Florida
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"Let his love continually pour from you to one another, because God is love. Everyone who loves is fathered by God and experiences an intimate knowledge of him. The one who doesn’t love has yet to know God, for God is love. The light of God’s love shined within us when he sent his matchless Son into the world so that we might live through him. This is love: He loved us long before we loved him. It was his love, not ours. He proved it by sending his Son to be the pleasing sacrificial offering to take away our sins. Delightfully loved ones, if he loved us with such tremendous love, then loving one another should be our way of life! No one has ever gazed upon the fullness of God’s splendor. But if we love one another, God makes his permanent home in us, and we make our permanent home in him, and his love is brought to its full expression in us." ~TPT


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc6SSHuZvQE
Whenever that song comes on , I turn the volume way up.

The Good Shepard loves His sheep. All of them.

And The Father runs to meet the prodigal.
 
Old 06-04-2022, 11:50 AM
 
Location: the Kingdom of His dear Son
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Whenever that song comes on , I turn the volume way up.

The Good Shepard loves His sheep. All of them.

And The Father runs to meet the prodigal.


“The cross of Christ means that the salvation of God goes deeper down than the deepest depths of iniquity man can commit. No person can get beyond the reach of Jesus; He made a way back to the throne of God from the very heart of hell by His tremendous atonement” ~Oswald Chambers (It is Finished)
 
Old 06-04-2022, 12:04 PM
 
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Don't be stupid. Jesus doesn't put His own people into hell.

Those who believe in Jesus and what He did for them on the Cross are delivered from hell via that faith.

The Bible teaches that we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand.

Therefore, it is those who don't have faith in Jesus Christ who will be consigned to hell in the final judgment.
hell is hades ie. the grave -> everyone goes there when they die. Learn to use correct language, then you may be able to unravel your twisted teachings.
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