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Think of caveman and cavewoman on an island though.
there will still be gender roles here, due to different physical and mental attributes.
Society reflects these.
There will be gender roles, perhaps, but WHICH gender roles? We're speaking of how each gender dresses, and even in modern society these differ between cultures & countries. So how could it be determined by nature, when a man in Samoa and a man in Canada (traditionally) dress so differently?
I'm not all that familiar with Scottish or Irish culture, so thanks for the interesting link. But I'm not really advocating anything, I'm only saying that should be a free & individual choice. You say to "do whatever you want, just leave my people alone" - and this is all that's being requested in return. If a boy (or man) wants to wear a dress, why can't everyone refrain from giving him a hard time about it? I understand children will tease, but at least the adults can maintain some level of maturity. Is that so much to ask?
You want to paint me as intolerant. All cultures/sub cultures have values. All cultures encourage individuals within those cultures to share the same values and mores. This just one way your culture encourages compliance with your values.
By Allison Klein
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, July 18, 2007
On a narrow, leafy street in Northwest Washington, where Prius hybrid cars and Volvos are the norm, one man bought a flashy gray Hummer that was too massive to fit in his garage.
So he parked the seven-foot-tall behemoth on the street in front of his house and smiled politely when his eco-friendly neighbors looked on in disapproval at his "dream car."
It lasted five days on the street before two masked men took a bat to every window, a knife to each 38-inch tire and scratched into the body: "FOR THE ENVIRON."
"The thought of somebody vandalizing it never crossed my mind," said Gareth Groves, 32, who lives with his mother in a three-story home in the 4300 block of Brandywine Street NW in American University Park. "I've kind of been in shock."
Now, as Groves ponders what to do with the remains of his $38,000 SUV, he has been the target of a number of people who have driven by the crime scene in his upscale neighborhood and glared at him in smug satisfaction.
"I'd say one in five people who come by have that 'you-got-what-you-deserve' look," said his friend Andy Sexton, 27, who is visiting from Arkansas and has been helping Groves deal with fallout from the crime.
Neighbor Lucille Liem, 37, who owns a Prius hybrid, said that a common sentiment in the neighborhood is that large vehicles are impractical and a strain on the Earth -- and Hummers in particular are a symbol of consumer excess.
"The neighborhood in general is very concerned with the environment," said Liem, whose Prius gets about 48 miles a gallon compared with the Hummer's 14 miles a gallon. "It's more liberal leaning. It's ridiculous to be driving a Hummer.".......
Because the default is that everything is appropriate unless their is reason it is inappropriate. No one has provided a reason that it is inappropriate.
You want to paint me as intolerant. All cultures/sub cultures have values. All cultures encourage individuals within those cultures to share the same values and mores. This just one way your culture encourages compliance with your values.
When did I ever call you intolerant? I've been very civil to you, and completely respect your opinions and values... I've only said that not everyone agrees, and asked if you're able to accept that. You didn't actually answer my question, so I have no idea if you're tolerant or not.
P.S. I'm not a cross-dresser, nor do I have a child, and therefore this is not my issue to defend. I've never advocated sending a boy to school in a dress, it's just none of my business if they do.
What on earth does that have to do with me, or with allowing people to dress as they please? I think you've been smoking some California herb, LOL.
Every sub-culture has its wackos, but that really doesn't mean anything to the general population. Should I pull out similar stories from conservatives or the Ozarks? Matter of fact, I was just thinking of my mother's recently departed friend, who was originally from the Ozarks (WV)... he was basically forced out of his hometown, and permanently disowned by his parents, just for being openly gay. Should I assume that represents all people from your neck of the woods?
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