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Old 08-10-2012, 01:05 AM
 
Location: 'Murica
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I may do so - but my ire is not with the IOC - but more with NBC for giving beach volleyball such extensive coverage. Notice they didn't do that for the shooting events. Wouldn't want to promote guns, now would we? But showing scantily clad women hitting a ball over a net? Primetime, baby!
Or maybe a sport where athletes are in motion is simply more interesting to watch, therefore garnering higher viewership, than a sport where athletes stand still.


Can't wait to watch those volleyball players dash across the sand and jump around in their burqas in 2016, once the IOC follows your suggestion.
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Old 08-10-2012, 01:10 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Emphasis on social. I typically use the term secular humanistic culture for lack of a better term. Liberal also works. It denotes a culture with values, mores, and social customs. Ancestry matters little. What is more important are the cultural norms you have adopted. If you possessed traditional values you'd be on the other side of this argument.
Traditional is a subjective term, to say the least. My family has been made up of "liberal" Jews for at least three generations (much farther back for the Jewish part), so my values are traditional to us. Oh wait, you were probably using "traditional" with the conservatives' definition - meaning "correct." I'm not stupid, so I know what you're trying to imply... but I'm also not conceding that one view is better than another. Sorry.

Oh, but I'm not even secular. What part of Jewish sounds secular to you??

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Old 08-10-2012, 01:14 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Or maybe a sport where athletes are in motion is simply more interesting to watch, therefore garnering higher viewership, than a sport where athletes stand still.
Plus our American beach volleyballers, Misty May-Treanor and Kerri Walsh Jennings, became quite well known (could say famous) in the last summer Olympics... they also have an ongoing rivalry with the Chinese team, so a LOT of people worldwide were interested in their match. Maybe these are also reasons they got more TV coverage than shooting? I mean, how many people here can name the top shooters? Maybe a few of you could, LOL.
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Old 08-10-2012, 01:17 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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I mean, how many people here can name the top shooters? Maybe a few of you could, LOL.
Kim Rhode - she is a local lady - and she just won her third Olympic gold medal.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/sp...g-records.html

She doesn't dress immodestly - as evidenced by the picture in that article.
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Old 08-10-2012, 01:20 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Kim Rhode - she is a local lady - and she just won her third Olympic gold medal.
And you're one of the few I expected WOULD be able to name one...

But if you did a poll of the whole US, I'd wager more people could identify the volleyball players first. I know that's true for me, and I'm not even a fan (actually hated the sport when I was forced to play in school). Regardless, I wouldn't mind seeing more shooting either - it is kinda cool, although gymnastics is the only summer sport I really care about watching.
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Old 08-10-2012, 01:27 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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She doesn't dress immodestly - as evidenced by the picture in that article.
She's not playing volleyball on a beach, either. Would it even be SAFE to shoot guns in a bikini?

I'm also curious, how do you feel about the male divers? Their outfits leave little to the imagination, which I personally don't mind.......

Yes, please!! http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enha...44113585-6.jpg
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Old 08-10-2012, 01:29 AM
 
Location: The middle of nowhere Arkansas
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What exactly ARE my values - do you really know? And yes, other demographics actually are becoming more liberal... I'd have to pull up the stats, but I've read a few polls showing African Americans and Hispanic Americans are now more accepting of gay marriage (as one example). I think it's a majority of them now, but again I'd have to pull up the stats to say for sure.
Perhaps your right. For their sake I hope not but that's not my call.


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We don't know that without checking every school in your area, but I'll take your word for it... and unless this boy is planning a move to Arkansas, I doubt he really cares what you're doing there. I'm glad you're happy, though! I like where I live too, so it seems we're both in agreement on that.
As far as I'm concerned I live in the last best place. You are welcome to california. Unfortunately, many of your fellows are voting.....with their feet. You can't swing a dead cat here without hitting one.


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Census: Whites Leaving Bay Area
As Asian and Hispanic populations increase, number of whites drops in eight counties

By Aaron Glantz on March 30, 2011 - 8:12 p.m. PDT

White people are leaving the Bay Area.

New census numbers released this month show the region is becoming more ethnically diverse not only because its Asian and Hispanic populations are increasing, but also because the Bay Area’s white population is in decline.

The Bay Area’s non-Hispanic white population dropped by more than 185,000 in the past decade, the census figures show.

“I’m not surprised. Often the census data confirms what you see anecdotally,” said Michelle McGurk, spokeswoman for San Jose Mayor Chuck Reed.

Census figures show San Jose lost 20,000 white residents over the past decade, even as it added 63,000 Asians and 44,000 Latinos.

“When I go to a third-grade classroom what I see is totally different than in 1995 or 2000,” McGurk said.

The white population declined in eight of the Bay Area’s nine counties, the census showed. San Francisco was the only county to see an increase in the number of white residents, with a modest rise of 4,659.

Meanwhile, the white population fell by 69,000 in Santa Clara County, 55,000 in Alameda County and 37,000 in San Mateo County.

Many of the largest losses occurred in Silicon Valley suburbs, which saw significant increases in their Asian population.........
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Old 08-10-2012, 01:30 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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She's not playing volleyball on a beach, either. Would it even be SAFE to shoot guns in a bikini?

I'm also curious, how do you feel about the male divers? Their outfits leave little to the imagination, which I personally don't mind.......

Yes, please!! http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enha...44113585-6.jpg
That attire is appropriate for their sport.
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Old 08-10-2012, 01:31 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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That attire is appropriate for their sport.
So is a bikini for beach volleyball... how can a Southern Californian NOT know that?! I mean, really. We only have cold beaches up here, and even I know that's their usual attire.
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Old 08-10-2012, 01:34 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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So is a bikini for beach volleyball... how can a Southern Californian NOT know that?! I mean, really. We only have cold beaches up here, and even I know that's their usual attire.
If a bikini is so integral to volleyball- why do the six-person team V-ball players not wear them?

How come the male beach players don't play shirtless?
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