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Old 01-24-2021, 06:38 PM
 
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Yes, which is why I’m suggesting cigarette smoking has reached a ‘floor’ which can not easily be lowered by slapping further taxation or penalties. Those still consuming cigarettes are either deeply addicted or willfully ignoring the health impacts.

IMO, your idea of penalizing lifestyle choices seems reasonable, but I think it’s a rather disastrous way to distribute vaccines/healthcare. Introducing anything which attempts to gate via ‘virtuous living’ quickly becomes a biased crapshoot. Who’s more deserving of a Covid-19 vaccine: an ICU RN who smokes 2 packs a week and is the primary care taker of a disabled husband, or an underemployed single man with a rape charge who consumes kale smoothies and works out daily? Multiply this by 6+ million people in MA. Have fun playing God.
So then we should penalize poor people? All their bad life decisions land them in COVID-19 hotbeds in the poor cities.

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God
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Old 01-24-2021, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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Like thats a bad thing.


Hard pass from me.
Our only surefire ticket to return to normalcy, and people like you will pass on it. Go figure.
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Old 01-25-2021, 04:33 AM
 
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So then we should penalize poor people? All their bad life decisions land them in COVID-19 hotbeds in the poor cities.

Signed,
God
Just because people are lower class doesn't mean they always make bad decisions. But one thing they can't do generally, is hide in their homes all day. Similarly, if the elites who run the world (and their dumb sycophants) made good decisions, the world wouldn't be nearly as screwed as it is.

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Old 01-25-2021, 06:34 AM
 
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Just because people are lower class doesn't mean they always make bad decisions. But one thing they can't do generally, is hide in their homes all day. Similarly, if the elites who run the world (and their dumb sycophants) made good decisions, the world wouldn't be nearly as screwed as it is.

Right, but if they'd made the right life decisions, they would have attended Harvard and they'd now be living in a big house telecommuting with InstaCart and the Amazon van in their gated driveway daily.




I'm not sure you're picking up the sarcasm but this is exactly the Libertarian position.


God, out.
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Old 01-25-2021, 06:58 AM
 
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Right, but if they'd made the right life decisions, they would have attended Harvard and they'd now be living in a big house telecommuting with InstaCart and the Amazon van in their gated driveway daily.
I'm not sure you're picking up the sarcasm but this is exactly the Libertarian position.
God, out.
Who are the Libertarians here that are espousing this position?
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Old 01-25-2021, 08:08 AM
 
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Now I'm all for vaccines but this is going to be a harder sale if we have to have booster shots for each variant.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/25/covi...an-strain.html
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Old 01-25-2021, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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Now I'm all for vaccines but this is going to be a harder sale if we have to have booster shots for each variant.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/25/covi...an-strain.html
I am glad they are working on that!
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Old 01-25-2021, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Newburyport, MA
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"Merck Stops Developing Both Of Its COVID-19 Vaccine Candidates: Results of Phase 1 clinical studies showed that the two vaccine candidates – known as V590 and V591 – 'were generally well tolerated, but the immune responses were inferior to those seen following natural infection and those reported for other SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 vaccines,' Merck said in a statement about its decision."

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronav...ine-candidates
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Old 01-25-2021, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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Slow vaccine rollout in MA was highlighted over the weekend. Paper-based systems, really?

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2021/01/...ation-rollout/
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Old 01-25-2021, 10:46 AM
 
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Slippery slope here as well.

I was a fan of Gov. Baker, I was... I am, still, kind of...

I dont like the way the rollout of vaccines is going. It seems slow. It seems like we are behind a lot of other states.

But then I also can't figure out how the state can monitor who gets it, when they get it, when they get #2, etc...

You need a piece of paper that says you go it? What if its copied, or falsified or anything....

There seems to be so many ways to skirt the system, the policies... It just can'[t be done willy-nilly. I get that.

But I have no idea (nor should I really) how they can figure out how to do this the right way - perhaps just get CVS/Walgreens to do all the vaccines, and shop 1000 to every store. Something like that
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