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Old 06-11-2021, 12:38 PM
 
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Yup that those that believe in eternal torment cannot see that they are doing this shows what a strong hold that doctrine of devils has on them. Strong delusions it surely is
If you make eternal torment one of the pillars of your teaching, of course the church will be rotten to the core. The roles of God and Satan reversed. Strong delusion indeed.

What bothers me most about those believing in ET is not so much the ignorance but the apathy.

 
Old 06-11-2021, 12:43 PM
 
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If you make eternal torment one of the pillars of your teaching, of course the church will be rotten to the core. The roles of God and Satan reversed. Strong delusion indeed.

What bothers me most about those believing in ET is not so much the ignorance but the apathy.
They are pretty much reversed to the point that Satan gets the mass of humanity and God only gets but a few. What a weak view they have of an almighty God.
 
Old 06-11-2021, 12:46 PM
 
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If you make eternal torment one of the pillars of your teaching, of course the church will be rotten to the core. The roles of God and Satan reversed. Strong delusion indeed.

What bothers me most about those believing in ET is not so much the ignorance but the apathy.
I can’t speak for everyone, but my church spends much time, money and effort to share the gospel with anyone who will listen. Apathy, I don’t think so!
 
Old 06-11-2021, 12:48 PM
 
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They are pretty much reversed to the point that Satan gets the mass of humanity and God only gets but a few. What a weak view they have of an almighty God.
Man, now you're calling Jesus a liar, you really should make an attempt to read scripture before you make such statements. But wait, you don't believe it even if Jesus said it, right.

Matt. 7:13-14

"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."
 
Old 06-11-2021, 12:50 PM
 
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We believe quite the contrary, with something you don't have, scripture to back up our claims.
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No regard for rules of interpretation whatsoever, Need I say more?
Lmao you like always have nothing. Surely you can do better then that. Or maybe it is you can't.

There has been hundreds of scripture given in this thread and you deny everyone of them.
 
Old 06-11-2021, 12:55 PM
 
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I can’t speak for everyone, but my church spends much time, money and effort to share the gospel with anyone who will listen. Apathy, I don’t think so!
Well i am glad you have a church that is helpful to others jimmie. I for one would never say that the belief in eternal torment means those who believe in it cant be kind loving people. However it is a doctrine that simply does not glorify God.
 
Old 06-11-2021, 12:57 PM
 
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Man, now you're calling Jesus a liar, you really should make an attempt to read scripture before you make such statements. But wait, you don't believe it even if Jesus said it, right.

Matt. 7:13-14

"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."
Eek gad Charlie that has been explained to you many times and we have all seen by now how you just ignore everything you dont want to see.
 
Old 06-11-2021, 01:20 PM
 
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Eek gad Charlie that has been explained to you many times and we have all seen by now how you just ignore everything you dont want to see.
Why don't you explain it to me, haven't seen that yet.

We need some fun around here, go ahead and explain!
 
Old 06-11-2021, 02:18 PM
 
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Well i am glad you have a church that is helpful to others jimmie. I for one would never say that the belief in eternal torment means those who believe in it cant be kind loving people. However it is a doctrine that simply does not glorify God.
Yep
 
Old 06-11-2021, 02:25 PM
 
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Eek gad Charlie that has been explained to you many times and we have all seen by now how you just ignore everything you dont want to see.
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Why don't you explain it to me, haven't seen that yet.

We need some fun around here, go ahead and explain!
Pneuma, It seems to me Charlie at this stage is caught in the attack mode and is wanting verbal fun and games so interacting with him on this only gives him what he wants and you will never convince him .... but others might see, so it may not be a pointless exercise
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