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Old 06-09-2021, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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God is the Savior of all mankind, not some of it, ALL of it.
What happens to one, happens to all, so He either is, or isn't.

 
Old 06-09-2021, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Well, in your post you stated:

Who are "they" that have a right to the tree of life? It's not clear to me what you mean. Do you make any distinction between "flesh" and "spirit" of the soul in judgement?
yes the distinction is the old man is destroyed as Christ is being revealed.
 
Old 06-09-2021, 07:22 PM
 
Location: New Zealand
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What happens to one, happens to all, so He either is, or isn't.
Yup

But each in their own “order”

G5001***(Strong)
τάγμα
tagma
tag'-mah
From G5021; something orderly in arrangement (a troop), that is, (figuratively) a series or succession: - order.
 
Old 06-09-2021, 07:25 PM
 
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post 2838
I can pick out scripture here and there and start my own cult, just as the UR has.

There is verse after verse in scripture that puts man in hell.

Where is the verse that says he gets out? Where is it, all I'm asking for is ONE!

Show me that or stop your raving.
 
Old 06-09-2021, 07:26 PM
 
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I was just responding to what jjguru Said about the flesh with some opinions, and also his question if that is why there is so much animosity toward UR - I wasn’t addressing your post, or making any assumptions on your thoughts


I think maybe where there can be confusion is where JJ says the flesh is not to be saved, and so thinks it won’t be “saved” he doesn’t address “type” at all

How I see it at the moment is There is actually 2 types of “flesh” and there is also more complexity regarding the Societal, it is not just about the individual

So it’s more about the designation of what “flesh” and how/when/where it is “saved” and in what manner

I believe a lot of Scriptures are not speaking of us individually, even though everything is built up by individuals, in “assemblies” “collectives” in very different seasons/times/days/years etc
I agree there are two types of flesh sis, the one we bare now and the one we will bare.
 
Old 06-09-2021, 07:29 PM
 
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yes the distinction is the old man is destroyed as Christ is being revealed.
That is beautifully said...That's exactly what I believe too.
 
Old 06-09-2021, 07:30 PM
 
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I can pick out scripture here and there and start my own cult, just as the UR has.

There is verse after verse in scripture that puts man in hell.

Where is the verse that says he gets out? Where is it, all I'm asking for is ONE!

Show me that or stop your raving.
someone has already started your cult Charlie and brought you into that cult and you did not even know it and still do not.

The point was you said no one address UR with scripture, I almost always use scripture and did so again, so stop pretending UR does not have any scripture to back up their belief.
 
Old 06-09-2021, 07:31 PM
 
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That is beautifully said...That's exactly what I believe too.
 
Old 06-09-2021, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Originally Posted by Charlie24 View Post
I can pick out scripture here and there and start my own cult, just as the UR has.

There is verse after verse in scripture that puts man in hell.

Where is the verse that says he gets out? Where is it, all I'm asking for is ONE!

Show me that or stop your raving.
What is the wages of sin Charlie?

Did Jesus pay that wage?

Is Jesus still in death or did he get out?
 
Old 06-09-2021, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Originally Posted by Charlie24 View Post
I can pick out scripture here and there and start my own cult, just as the UR has.

There is verse after verse in scripture that puts man in hell.

Where is the verse that says he gets out? Where is it, all I'm asking for is ONE!

Show me that or stop your raving.
This may help you not to be so gullible: How many times is hell mentioned in the Bible?

The Hebrew Sheol and the Greek Hades were both located beneath the earth, because both words mean "the grave" or the "abode of the dead" and graves are underground. But as explained above, these words clearly do not mean "hell." The Hebrew Gehenna was a physical valley in Israel, and also does not mean "hell." The Greek Tartarus does appear to mean something like "hell" but, as explained above, was not eternal.
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