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Old 05-21-2021, 10:06 AM
 
Location: the Kingdom of His dear Son
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Yes, for those who repent and serve God. As for those who don’t they are enemies of God and will be judged as such.
Focus Jimmie!, "The opened ear comes before the opened mouth."

Before & After (Father's Lost & Found)

The Lord has the full intention of returning every fallen wreck of Adam 1 back into union and communion with the Source of all: Himself.

The verb metaschēmatizō is dramatic for everyone and everything!

The everything is tapeinōsis.

God will transform every individual of low estate, devoid of spiritual life, into the finished product of change and transformation. Yes, even the vile!

God's intention is to return mankind, reduced to low estate by sin (tapeinōsis).

"But there’s far more to life for us. We’re citizens of high heaven! We’re waiting the arrival of the Savior, the Master, Jesus Christ, who will transform our earthy bodies into glorious bodies like his own. He’ll make us beautiful and whole with the same powerful skill by which he is putting everything as it should be, under and around him." ~MSG

 
Old 05-21-2021, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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...we as Christians are bound to the Truth!
Eternal damnation is not the truth, so you are not bound to the lie.
 
Old 05-21-2021, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Not if we follow the Holy Spirit of agape love as revealed and demonstrated by Jesus, Charlie, AND follow His instructions to love God and each other every day and repent when we don't. Where in the many descriptions and the unambiguous demonstration of God's Holy Spirit is there anything to fear. They scourged and crucified Jesus without being smote or condemned to eternal torment because of their savage ignorance.
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Yes, for those who repent and serve God. As for those who don’t they are enemies of God and will be judged as such.
In other words, you will be judged as such for the lie you have perpetuated.
 
Old 05-21-2021, 12:23 PM
 
Location: the Kingdom of His dear Son
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"But there’s far more to life for us. We’re citizens of high heaven! We’re waiting the arrival of the Savior, the Master, Jesus Christ, who will transform our earthy bodies into glorious bodies like his own. He’ll make us beautiful and whole with the same powerful skill by which he is putting everything as it should be, under and around him." ~MSG


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2L0FmqwpFM
 
Old 05-22-2021, 10:34 AM
 
Location: the Kingdom of His dear Son
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The awesome revelation of the scope of God's great love and grace is better felt than telt.

Two of my treasured friends are speaking together of our wonderful Lord and Master below....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mzv0g9yXJY&t=11s
 
Old 05-23-2021, 04:09 AM
 
Location: the Kingdom of His dear Son
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Any message that calls itself “good news” but leaves us with the feeling that Love will fail, or that Love is conditional has to be wrong.

It may contain truth. It may be good in various respects, but if it contains any hint that Love’s ultimate success depends on our ability to succeed, you are not hearing a message about the love of God.

You are hearing a message about conditional love, which is not love at all. It is only a business deal.

The message, “the Lord loves you, but you must… or He is out of here forever!” is not good news.

What that message is telling you — bottom line — is this:

Good news, pal! You can count on God, if He can count on YOU.

Scripture tells us that by the works of the law (rule-keeping!) no one will be set right with God!

For if scrambling to observe all the rules and keep all of our bases covered could produce righteousness, Christ came to us and died for nothing! (Gal. 2:16,21) If we could rescue ourselves, why would we need a Rescuer/ Saviour?

The love of God never fails: EVER ! No if's and's or but's.
 
Old 05-23-2021, 09:11 AM
 
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The Lord Jesus Christ is not a potential Saviour perched on His lifeguard tower!

https://forum.evangelicaluniversalis...17dce2ae5.jpeg

He will save you!

https://forum.evangelicaluniversalis...311557df3.jpeg
 
Old 05-23-2021, 12:00 PM
 
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Any message that calls itself “good news” but leaves us with the feeling that Love will fail, or that Love is conditional has to be wrong.

It may contain truth. It may be good in various respects, but if it contains any hint that Love’s ultimate success depends on our ability to succeed, you are not hearing a message about the love of God.

You are hearing a message about conditional love, which is not love at all. It is only a business deal.

The message, “the Lord loves you, but you must… or He is out of here forever!” is not good news.

What that message is telling you — bottom line — is this:

Good news, pal! You can count on God, if He can count on YOU.

Scripture tells us that by the works of the law (rule-keeping!) no one will be set right with God!

For if scrambling to observe all the rules and keep all of our bases covered could produce righteousness, Christ came to us and died for nothing! (Gal. 2:16,21) If we could rescue ourselves, why would we need a Rescuer/ Saviour?

The love of God never fails: EVER ! No if's and's or but's.
 
Old 05-23-2021, 12:11 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Rose2Luv View Post
The Lord Jesus Christ is not a potential Saviour perched on His lifeguard tower!

https://forum.evangelicaluniversalis...17dce2ae5.jpeg

He will save you!

https://forum.evangelicaluniversalis...311557df3.jpeg
Are we to believe a bunch of fanatics that can only see the Love of Christ and totally deny His judgement plainly seen written throughout scripture?

I don't think so, Rose! This is not the real Jesus you are presenting!
 
Old 05-23-2021, 12:39 PM
 
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Are we to believe a bunch of fanatics that can only see the Love of Christ and totally deny His judgement plainly seen written throughout scripture?
I don't think so, Rose! This is not the real Jesus you are presenting!
Trust Rosey, Charlie, he is presenting the real Jesus unambiguously revealed on the Cross! What you see throughout scripture are the NATURAL consequences that will result from OUR OWN actions, NOT any judgment from God. God wants us to AVOID the natural consequences of our willful and selfish actions done without concern or consideration for any harm or hurt we cause to others.

We have been given repentance (the ability to change our state of mind to agape love) to correct our failures and the Comforter (Holy Spirit of agape love) who abides with us to help us from doing it again if we are sincerely sorry.
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