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Old 06-30-2020, 04:07 PM
 
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People like me, lol. I work with doctors and infectious disease specialists in the healthcare field. I have multiple bachelor's degrees in psychology and sociology, as well as extensive statistical training and a master's degree in applied communications. What about you? What did you get your YouTube degree in? Anti-vaxxing with a minor in 5G?

I've gone through a lot of preparation to get to where I am, and again, I'm regularly dealing with data and experts. If you'd like accurate information, let me know. If you'd like to speak to someone who's survived COVID, let me know. The fact that you don't know someone, aren't currently feeling ill, or can't see germs with your naked eye means nothing. And given the things you say regularly on these threads, I'm not sure I believe that you know could identify accurate sources of information, or understand them if you did.

Let me make a couple thing clear. First of all, intelligent people can have multiple thoughts or concerns at the same time. So, it's not and either/or when it comes to the pandemic. I care about both. But we have to take care of the health of citizens first, in order to take care of the businesses. Wearing a mask and maintaining social distancing are risk reduction methods, not a cure all. But they are necessary to keep the virus at bay and allow businesses to steadily open, and they're very small public safety efforts to take, not an assault on your freedom. The main danger to individuals is that people have to smell their own breath, lol.

I'm not going to even get into the absurd Bill Gates conspiracy assertion. But the fact that you're defending the con man billionaire but condemn a the billionaire who's dedicated most of his money to helping people is telling.

None of this matters, really. More and more places will shut you out of entering, because no one wants to take your word that you're not COVID positive. It's the law, and it's businesses that will be mostly enforcing it.
Just know there is another side, including doctors who dont believe in these shutdowns. I think their voices will come out soon to mainstream, they've been heavily censored lately.
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Old 06-30-2020, 08:28 PM
 
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Whatcom County. You must live in a bubble. Mandated means nothing when it isnt enforced. Its not enforced because itll cause a huge backlash.
Not my fault you don’t know the law. I said mandated by the state and I’m right. If it gets bad enough, it’ll be enforced and we can thank uneducated people like yourself.
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Old 06-30-2020, 08:29 PM
 
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Just know there is another side, including doctors who dont believe in these shutdowns. I think their voices will come out soon to mainstream, they've been heavily censored lately.
Where are you hearing the other side?
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Old 07-01-2020, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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That’s incorrect, masks are required on indoor public spaces.

And who is going to enforce wearing a mask...most police departments say they have better things to do then running around arresting people not wearing a mask ....But if a business wants people to wear mask that is their prerogative and the vast majority of people will comply.
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Old 07-01-2020, 11:35 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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People, if they are sick, cough or sneeze into their mask and reuse it and touch it since few people can wear it correctly for hours without touching it. Healthy people well all it does to them is restrict air and make them lightheaded. There body isnt given a chance to handle germs. Then people throw their mask onto the ground to blow around the city.

What if the coughing or sneezing is caused by alleges which happens this time of the year to thousands of people, would wearing a mask make that situation worst?
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Old 07-01-2020, 01:56 PM
 
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The "don't believe in lockdowns" doctors are now analyzing the data of the places no longer locked down. Maybe they have an explanation for the (entirely coincidental, no doubt) rising number of cases.


That's why it wasn't necessary to ever debate them. The virus will do what it does - if lockdowns were pointless - and sun kills it - nothing to worry about, we're all in the clear.


If lockdowns were possibly doing something, then when they are removed - we'll see a rise. Do we? Um, yep.
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Old 07-01-2020, 03:26 PM
 
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The "don't believe in lockdowns" doctors are now analyzing the data of the places no longer locked down. Maybe they have an explanation for the (entirely coincidental, no doubt) rising number of cases.

That's why it wasn't necessary to ever debate them. The virus will do what it does - if lockdowns were pointless - and sun kills it - nothing to worry about, we're all in the clear.

If lockdowns were possibly doing something, then when they are removed - we'll see a rise. Do we? Um, yep.
One has to let certain segments of society make their own choices. It appears masks have been politicized because Trump doesn't like them. So his supporters dutifully oppose them. It's fine. When someone is making a choice like that, the best response is to just say "please proceed". One wonders if they would like their surgeon telling them wearing a mask is taking away his/her freedom. Should seat belts not be mandatory? Should helmets be optional? In the Trump era, I would say let's go full Darwin.

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Old 07-01-2020, 03:45 PM
 
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Not my fault you don’t know the law. I said mandated by the state and I’m right. If it gets bad enough, it’ll be enforced and we can thank uneducated people like yourself.
Its not bad. The fatality rates, even being artificially inflated with antibody tests and other death causes like heart disease or getting shot in the head, regular flu etc, are very low. There's a reason the media focuses on the raw number of positive cases and not the lethality. And no it will never successfully be enforced. Walk outside of your bubble and see the majority in many places arent wearing masks.
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Old 07-01-2020, 03:48 PM
 
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Its not bad. The fatality rates, even being artificially inflated with antibody tests and other death causes like heart disease or getting shot in the head, regular flu etc, are very low. There's a reason the media focuses on the raw number of positive cases and not the lethality. And no it will never successfully be enforced. Walk outside of your bubble and see the majority in many places arent wearing masks.
Don't wear a mask.
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Old 07-01-2020, 03:50 PM
 
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Where are you hearing the other side?
If you actually pay attention the mainstream media occassionally spills facts contrary to their narrative. Look at the bottom of articles or alternative media where people post livestreams without being censored and deplatformed. Pay close attention to important details that are omitted or ignored.
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