[Nonesuch]

Originally Posted by JenaS62

It's actually diversity, EQUITY and inclusion. Those are different things. Equality means everyone has the same opportunity. Equity means taking from one and giving to another.

We had a local group of agitators trying to "take over" a non-profit where I serve as a board member. Among other tactics, they pushed to add a formal DEI statement to our bylaws & website, insisting they could find us grants (free money! woohoo!) if only we had a more diverse board (meaning fewer white folk) and a DEIBA-first mentality.

Originally Posted by Ghaati

So you and your ilk are against diversity, you're against equality, and you're against inclusion. Because that's what DEI stands for: Diversity, equality, inclusion.

Our new best friends helpfully provided sample language for a DEI statement, then were apoplectic when we responded with a re-write which included striking "equity" for "equality" (and "equitable" became "impartial").

They also freaked out when we defined "diversity" to be inclusive of diversity of thought and creed.

[silverct9a]

That sounds nice on paper, but are things really equal though? And if so, when did this all of this equality occur? When the 13th, 14th, 15th, and 19th amendments were passed? Or was it after the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

Were there no other equality obstructions?

Originally Posted by JenaS62

It's actually diversity, EQUITY and inclusion. Those are different things. Equality means everyone has the same opportunity. Equity means taking from one and giving to another.

[Corrie22]

Originally Posted by silverct9a

So you only have a problem with AA/DEI when it uses race as the criteria and not gender, sexual orientation, disability etc?

It's been clearly established that white women are the biggest beneficiaries of such policies overall, yet we don't hear a peep about that...why is that?

now you're really trying to twist things....LOL..race, gender, age, or sexual orientation.....on the basis of race, color, sex, national origin, gender identity, or sexual orientation

don't know....can you even read what's posted?.....rotfl

Originally Posted by Corrie22 View Post
Discrimination: the unfair or prejudicial treatment of people and groups based on characteristics such as race, gender, age, or sexual orientation.

Florida’s Board of Governors voted to ban state spending on DEI programs across all public universities in the state, defining DEI as “any program, campus activity, or policy that classifies individuals on the basis of race, color, sex, national origin, gender identity, or sexual orientation and promotes differential or preferential treatment of individuals on the basis of such classification.”"

well, you're on your own.....

[Ghaati]

Originally Posted by JenaS62

It's actually diversity, EQUITY and inclusion. Those are different things. Equality means everyone has the same opportunity. Equity means taking from one and giving to another.

No that's not what it means in the context of the term.

“Equity” focuses on fairness and justice, particularly referring to compensation and whether people are being paid or treated fairly

according to professionals who actually work in the field.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/dei-progra...ry?id=97004455

An excellent explanation of equity is found in wikipedia:

Equity within a society is different from social equality and takes into account the individual differences that people may have when seeking an equal outcome. For example, person A may have no difficulty walking, person B may be able to walk but with some difficulty, whilst person C may be unable to walk at all. Equality would be providing each of those three people with the same opportunities or aids. Per our example, if persons A, B, and C receive a wheelchair, this is a form of equality. Equity, on the other hand, would look different from equality because it would instead cater to each individual's differing needs. For the same example, person A may not receive any aids, person B may receive a walking stick, whilst person C may receive an electric wheelchair.

and you can check all their footnotes and "further reading" references if you take issue with wikipedia for whatever reason.

[firmbizzle]

Originally Posted by JenaS62

It's actually diversity, EQUITY and inclusion. Those are different things. Equality means everyone has the same opportunity. Equity means taking from one and giving to another.

Do you know how many times "things" were taken from one and given to another in Florida? Here are a couple.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosewood_massacre

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocoee_massacre

[firmbizzle]

Originally Posted by Travelassie

Please provide specific examples and cite your sources. Thank you.

Oh, and since you know nothing about me, you don't get to say what is ok with me and what isn't.

Don't take it personal my friend, it's not about you.


SEC schools were segregated, I shouldn't not have to prove that.

[Travelassie]

Originally Posted by firmbizzle

Don't take it personal my friend, it's not about you.


SEC schools were segregated, I shouldn't not have to prove that.

I see you still can't/aren't willing to cite your sources.

[bus man]

Originally Posted by Ghaati

So you and your ilk are against diversity, you're against equality, and you're against inclusion. Because that's what DEI stands for: Diversity, equality, inclusion.

I'm not against those things. (And by the way, the E stands for equity, not equality.) But when people talk about Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, it's like when North Korea calls itself the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. The words they use have different meanings than the actual dictionary definitions of the words. When they talk about diversity, they mean fewer white people. When they talk about equity, they mean giving a leg up to non-white (and usually non-Asian) people. And when they talk about inclusion, they mean excluding white people. Whether or not those were the originally intended results, the fact is that this is what happens when DEI programs are implemented. Which is why they are starting to be dismantled; because they are discriminatory and racist.

[Ghaati]

Originally Posted by Travelassie

I see you still can't/aren't willing to cite your sources.

You shouldn't need to have sources cited for things that are common knowledge.

Such as - I don't need to cite a source to prove that a sentence is a grammatical structure. I don't need to cite a source to prove that the color green is the product of mixing blue and yellow.

And I don't need to cite a source to prove that the Southeast Conference was segregated until the mid-late 1960's.

But hey - just to help you out, since it's clear you had trouble helping yourself, I did the work for ya:

https://www.google.com/search?sca_es...ih=833&dpr=0.9

if you're one of those people who worry google will track your eye-movements and send your location information to the CIA or the Illuminati, you can check the same at duckduckgo:

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=southeast+...=c&t=hn&ia=web



You're welcome.

[Dave_n_Tenn]

Originally Posted by Ghaati

100% of all black churches cater to black people. OMG reverse discrimination! We autta start a petition or something.

No they don't. They serve God and all His children.

Wow