[suzy_q2010]

Originally Posted by Teak

No, they never switched sides. Planned Parenthood was started by Margaret Sanger, a staunch supporter of eugenics who wanted abortion to thin out the Black population which she considered to be sub-standard to the whites. And lo, and behold, the Dem party still supports abortion and Planned Parenthood.

Sanger on abortion:

https://sanger.hosting.nyu.edu/articles/ms_abortion/

"Q. But do you find abortion to be an acceptable alternative to contraception?

[Sanger] A. “It is an alternative that I cannot too strongly condemn. Although abortion may be resorted to in order to save the life of the mother, the practice of it merely for limitation of offspring is dangerous and vicious.” (MS, “The Pope’s Position on Birth Control,” The Nation, Jan. 27, 1932 [MSM S71:243; Vol. 2, p. 149.)

More quotes at the link.

[PamelaIamela]

Originally Posted by Dave_n_Tenn

DEI initiatives are superficial, performative ways to check the box on the scale of woke-ness. Has nothing to do with education. The reality is DEI has isolated the very people it intended to bring together. Florida has made great strides to stop the craziness called DEI.

If DEI was employed in a team sport setting, it would be a laughing matter when it came to performing against the 'competition. However lucky for us... the actual abilities and skill sets of different players in different positions determines who plays. Skin color, religion, social status, national origin etc. plays no part in the 'team' selection process. Why is that? Imagine if that was true in all educational opportunities. However that wouldn't fit the overall objective of the left... requiring equal outcome as opposed to what common sense would dictate = equal opportunity.

Most people on this thread who sneer in contempt at the elimination of DEI as a right wing plot to restore racism are clueless as to how pernicious and anti-liberal this policy is.

In fact, DEI stifles open inquiry and free speech and therefore must be excised as the first step in restoring our institutions of higher learning to their true mission: the expansion of knowledge in the search for truth.

A prime example of DEI in action at the top (Harvard) stars Claudine Gay (president) and her victim Roland G. Fryer (noted economics professor).

In a Dec 27, 2023 Newsweek article on Claudine Gay written by Winkfield Twyman, Jr, are some of the gory details:

https://www.newsweek.com/claudine-ga...pinion-1855912

Here's a brief extract:

"Economics Professor Roland G. Fryer, Jr. was next in the sights of Dean Gay. Fryer was a top Black professor at Harvard. After having overcome all sorts of hardship and childhood deprivation, Professor Fryer joined the faculty at Harvard to become the second-youngest professor ever to be awarded tenure at Harvard, and went on to blaze a trail of distinction, including winning the MacArthur Fellowship and the John Bates Clark Medal.
Yet when Fryer undertook research into the killings of unarmed Black men in Houston, Fryer's research found no racial disparities. He made the mistake of undercutting the racial narrative that the Left has adopted, and as a result, Gay did her best to remove all of his academic privileges, coordinating a witch hunt against him. Fryer survived Gay's crusade of discharge but Fryer's lab was shut down, his reputation tarnished."

Later, the uproar that ensued after she testified at the House inquiry into anti-semitism at MIT, Harvard, and UPenn, moved Alan Dershowitz to exhort Harvard to "dismantle, discredit and utterly destroy the Orwellian DEI geoupthink that put her there".

[Dave_n_Tenn]

Originally Posted by Ghaati

So you and your ilk are against diversity, you're against equality, and you're against inclusion. Because that's what DEI stands for: Diversity, equality, inclusion.

You want everyone to be white, anyone who isn't male, christian, straight, and white, to be considered inferior, and you want to exclude anyone who isn't male, christian, straight, and white, from opportunities to succeed in this country.

OR POSSIBLY:

you really have no idea what DEI is all about, and you've jumped on a bandwagon that was thrust in front of you and the tinsel was shiny enough to attract your attention.

OR YOUR RUSH TO JUDGEMENT

.... has led you to having eyes wide shut. If you provide black kids DEI propaganda, telling them that they can never get an opportunity to succeed because of white society and all white people hate them and can never change, it isn’t hard to see why they would suddenly start feeling less welcome. By the same measure if you tell all the white kids that they are inherently racist, simply by virtue of their skin color, again, a central tenet of DEI programs and their underlying critical race theory ideology, they also feel less welcome.

There is none so blind who will not see.

DEI is the social drug that creates a dependency on hate and segregation. Once people are captured by the lies, only the DEI mantra will satisfy those under its spell. We see it right here on these boards. Lie after lie after lie.

[silverct9a]

Exactly, I was starting to think absolutely no one has a clue around here.

Originally Posted by Ghaati

"Reverse racism" isn't a thing. American white people are not being passed over for jobs, housing, or loans, in favor of American white people. As for education, there are no quotas. Some universities, back in the 1970's, thought the affirmative action programs required them. And then they learned they were wrong, and stopped quotas.

The concept of "reverse racism" exists because there are white people who are under the mistaken belief that black people have an advantage over them that they don't have. Mostly - they're white people who think they deserve a better life MORE than black people deserve it. People who use that phrase are demonstrating their ignorance, not their cleverness. It's an ignorant phrase coined by ignorant people who think that Shanequa the maid somehow has an advantage over Bobby the Burger King shift manager.

[silverct9a]

I agree, white women must be stopped immediately in their preferential treatment and abuse of DEI policies. Why don’t we both march and protest this? I’ll wear a MAGA hat and you wear your finest “robes”

Originally Posted by Corrie22

you're no where near as clever as you think you are....

who is a beneficiary has nothing to do with promoting more racism

DEI promotes racism....and racism is against the law

[Corrie22]

should be self-explanatory......

self-explanatory: clear and easy to understand without needing any extra information or explanation.


Discrimination: the unfair or prejudicial treatment of people and groups based on characteristics such as race, gender, age, or sexual orientation.

Florida’s Board of Governors voted to ban state spending on DEI programs across all public universities in the state, defining DEI as “any program, campus activity, or policy that classifies individuals on the basis of race, color, sex, national origin, gender identity, or sexual orientation and promotes differential or preferential treatment of individuals on the basis of such classification.”"

...and the horrible knuckle dragging "racists" even included discrimination against gender identity and sexual orientation

[silverct9a]

So if the below quote about blacks is your argument, what are your thoughts regarding white women who are the largest beneficiaries of Affirmative Action and DEI efforts?

Does sexism not exist? Do women earn as much as men for equal amount of work? Was the women's suffrage movement not real? If it wasn't real why does the 19th amendment exist?

I get the strong suspicion you are no longer in the workforce and if you are, I don't get the impression you are in a white collar field where all of this is easily observed.

Also, I don't hear anyone screaming from the rooftops that White women and their DEI/Affirmative Action advantages...should totally be outlawed

See how many reputable sources I can find regarding this topic, can you on the other hand provide anything supporting your logic that isn't from some conspiracy or far-right publication?

White women benefit most from affirmative action. So why do they oppose it?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...n/70371219007/


Affirmative Action Has Helped White Women More Than Anyone

https://time.com/4884132/affirmative...s-white-women/

White women benefit most from affirmative action — and are among its fiercest opponents

https://www.vox.com/2016/5/25/116829...rmative-action

Affirmative Action Benefits White Women Most

https://www.teenvogue.com/story/affi...n-who-benefits

Specifically, it has been white women who have benefitted the most. As long as you frame it as a racial issue, you will have animus towards it. It’s been an incredibly effective means to stimulate racial animus. For years, I’ve been doing anti-racism training, and it’s inevitable that someone’s going to say, ‘well, I’m all for rights, but not for special rights’ and you know that they’re referring to affirmative action.

https://www.politico.com/newsletters...ction-00102397

Who are the real beneficiaries of affirmative action?

https://www.pulitzer.org/article/who...rmative-action

Originally Posted by Corrie22

yes they do...

affirmative action........lowering the standards for blacks

Originally Posted by Corrie22

should be self-explanatory......

self-explanatory: clear and easy to understand without needing any extra information or explanation.


Discrimination: the unfair or prejudicial treatment of people and groups based on characteristics such as race, gender, age, or sexual orientation.

Florida’s Board of Governors voted to ban state spending on DEI programs across all public universities in the state, defining DEI as “any program, campus activity, or policy that classifies individuals on the basis of race, color, sex, national origin, gender identity, or sexual orientation and promotes differential or preferential treatment of individuals on the basis of such classification.”"

...and the horrible knuckle dragging "racists" even included discrimination against gender identity and sexual orientation

[Corrie22]

why do you keep taking that quote out of context....it was a reply to race based admissions

...and race based admissions absolutely lower the standards for blacks....or anyone it's applied to

Originally Posted by firmbizzle View Post
The problem is that these public institutions have a history of race based admissions whose legacies still benefit from their segregated enrollments of the past. That seems to be ok with you.

Originally Posted by Corrie22 View Post
yes they do...

affirmative action........lowering the standards for blacks

Originally Posted by Corrie22

Discrimination: the unfair or prejudicial treatment of people and groups based on characteristics such as race, gender, age, or sexual orientation.

Florida’s Board of Governors voted to ban state spending on DEI programs across all public universities in the state, defining DEI as “any program, campus activity, or policy that classifies individuals on the basis of race, color, sex, national origin, gender identity, or sexual orientation and promotes differential or preferential treatment of individuals on the basis of such classification.”"

[JenaS62]

Originally Posted by Ghaati

So you and your ilk are against diversity, you're against equality, and you're against inclusion. Because that's what DEI stands for: Diversity, equality, inclusion.

You want everyone to be white, anyone who isn't male, christian, straight, and white, to be considered inferior, and you want to exclude anyone who isn't male, christian, straight, and white, from opportunities to succeed in this country.

OR POSSIBLY:

you really have no idea what DEI is all about, and you've jumped on a bandwagon that was thrust in front of you and the tinsel was shiny enough to attract your attention.

It's actually diversity, EQUITY and inclusion. Those are different things. Equality means everyone has the same opportunity. Equity means taking from one and giving to another.

[silverct9a]

So you only have a problem with AA/DEI when it uses race as the criteria and not gender, sexual orientation, disability etc?

It's been clearly established that white women are the biggest beneficiaries of such policies overall, yet we don't hear a peep about that...why is that?

Originally Posted by Corrie22

why do you keep taking that quote out of context....it was a reply to race based admissions

...and race based admissions absolutely lower the standards for blacks....or anyone it's applied to