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Old 11-02-2018, 02:48 AM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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Give me what we had in 1997-98 and that i will be happy with.
A tornado outbreak in late February?
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Old 11-02-2018, 04:02 AM
 
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A tornado outbreak in late February?
Never had one in my area. I was talking about near 40" of rain in 4 months. I was loving that. 17" In Dec of 97 alone joan.
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Old 11-02-2018, 06:29 AM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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I’ll take 97-98! Min temp was 18 whole winter and above normal moderately on highs and lows. Rain was insane! 7.49 inches of rain in Jan then 5 more in feb. December was dry with only 2.7.
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Old 11-02-2018, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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I’ll take 97-98! Min temp was 18 whole winter and above normal moderately on highs and lows. Rain was insane! 7.49 inches of rain in Jan then 5 more in feb. December was dry with only 2.7.



That year saw a super strong east based El Nino. You just will not see that this year at all.



I'm afraid, and I say this as a warm biased winter person, that lows will be brutal in the South this year. I would say 10F for Atlanta, 16F Charleston, 15F Mobile AL, etc. In other words, yet another brutal winter while the West stays with an unbreakable ridge. This is the new normal in a warming world. The North American Dipole is getting more extreme with each passing year until the Eastern US catches up with the west in warming. They say it will be another decade or so. Buckle up.



The indisputable fact, even though Bastardi will never say this, is that the eastern US is the slowest place in the world to warm as of yet, and may even end up colder with global warming due to the default ridge west-trough east geographically biased condition. The western Cordillera causes that set up.



https://www.britannica.com/place/Western-Cordillera


https://climatenexus.org/the-warm-we...rature-divide/


https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley....2/2016JD025116




I believe that when all is said and done, the 2010-2020 period will be second coldest to the 1980's.



Lots of sensitive vegetation will be wiped out in the South just like the 1980's.
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Old 11-02-2018, 09:33 AM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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Ehh, I’m hopeful . Every year I say that only to get disappointed. Raleigh’s on a ****ty streak this decade... out of the 130 year record if I had to put in order worst decades 2010s may finish right behind 60s-80s if next two years don’t deliver warmth. Meanwhile Europe is breaking warmes year on record by a massive margin.


There is hope, chatter on other forums is about the nino becoming more east based and strong as the warmest +3c waters are surfacing further east than they had originally thought. I’m certainly hopeful!
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Old 11-02-2018, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
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That year saw a super strong east based El Nino. You just will not see that this year at all.



I'm afraid, and I say this as a warm biased winter person, that lows will be brutal in the South this year. I would say 10F for Atlanta, 16F Charleston, 15F Mobile AL, etc. In other words, yet another brutal winter while the West stays with an unbreakable ridge. This is the new normal in a warming world. The North American Dipole is getting more extreme with each passing year until the Eastern US catches up with the west in warming. They say it will be another decade or so. Buckle up.



The indisputable fact, even though Bastardi will never say this, is that the eastern US is the slowest place in the world to warm as of yet, and may even end up colder with global warming due to the default ridge west-trough east geographically biased condition. The western Cordillera causes that set up.



https://www.britannica.com/place/Western-Cordillera


https://climatenexus.org/the-warm-we...rature-divide/


https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley....2/2016JD025116




I believe that when all is said and done, the 2010-2020 period will be second coldest to the 1980's.



Lots of sensitive vegetation will be wiped out in the South just like the 1980's.
The sun was a lot more active with sunspots in the 1980’s. The decade of the 2010’s could well be even more brutal in terms of cold weather than the worst of the worst cold outbreaks, I think it is definitely possible that the east might well be entering a mini ice age.
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Old 11-02-2018, 04:32 PM
 
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Originally Posted by tom77falcons View Post
That year saw a super strong east based El Nino. You just will not see that this year at all.



I'm afraid, and I say this as a warm biased winter person, that lows will be brutal in the South this year. I would say 10F for Atlanta, 16F Charleston, 15F Mobile AL, etc. In other words, yet another brutal winter while the West stays with an unbreakable ridge. This is the new normal in a warming world. The North American Dipole is getting more extreme with each passing year until the Eastern US catches up with the west in warming. They say it will be another decade or so. Buckle up.



The indisputable fact, even though Bastardi will never say this, is that the eastern US is the slowest place in the world to warm as of yet, and may even end up colder with global warming due to the default ridge west-trough east geographically biased condition. The western Cordillera causes that set up.



https://www.britannica.com/place/Western-Cordillera


https://climatenexus.org/the-warm-we...rature-divide/


https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley....2/2016JD025116




I believe that when all is said and done, the 2010-2020 period will be second coldest to the 1980's.



Lots of sensitive vegetation will be wiped out in the South just like the 1980's.
We will never see it in 5 lifetimes like in 97-98. 2010 from Jan1 st to March was the coldest 3 months i ever saw. Not that we had the lowest lows, but week after week of highs in the 40's and 50's. After March of 2010 we have had the hottest weather ever and this year alone is by far the hottest so far.SO each year just keeps getting hotter in my area. Not sure about the rest of ya. No one area just enters a ice age in a few short years. Takes 100's to 1000's.
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Old 11-02-2018, 05:09 PM
 
Location: Seoul
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Ehh, I’m hopeful . Every year I say that only to get disappointed. Raleigh’s on a ****ty streak this decade... out of the 130 year record if I had to put in order worst decades 2010s may finish right behind 60s-80s if next two years don’t deliver warmth. Meanwhile Europe is breaking warmes year on record by a massive margin.


There is hope, chatter on other forums is about the nino becoming more east based and strong as the warmest +3c waters are surfacing further east than they had originally thought. I’m certainly hopeful!
Would be nice if the Nino moves east. Though I still got a feeling that this will be a very cold winter
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Old 11-03-2018, 07:05 AM
 
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This weather company suggests a backloaded winter.
https://valleewx.com/2018/11/02/offi...-text-release/

Their analog years

Years: ’86 – -87, ’94 – ’95, ’02 – ’03, ’14 – ’15
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Old 11-03-2018, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Seoul
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This weather company suggests a backloaded winter.
https://valleewx.com/2018/11/02/offi...-text-release/

Their analog years

Years: ’86 – -87, ’94 – ’95, ’02 – ’03, ’14 – ’15
Oh no. No no no no no no no no no. No
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