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And yet Israel and their super powerful IDF ....in a country of only 9.3 million....
you don't need huge numbers ....just a half million person army ....or a one million person army...
can be very formidable ....if well trained ...well equiped ....and highly motivated....
None of those much larger Arab countries want to f**k with the IDF.
Apparently, Hamas didn’t get the memo, nor did Hezbollah. While Israel is real good at blowing up buildings and using its military against unarmed civilians …. it’s taken quite a few ass whippings over the years since the 7 day war at the hands of well armed Arab military groups. And just like Ukraine, absent massive and ongoing US support, Israel would cease to exist.
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Same thing can be the case with Ukraine military.....
Yes indeed. The Ukrainian military was quite formidable when attacking Eastern Ukrainian civilians in the Donbas region, but haven’t fared so well against the Russian military.
Israel is up against a group of people that aren't even allowed to collect rainwater that falls on the land they inhabit. Israel is also a nuclear armed country that doesn't having senior citizens fighting in the front lines of it's army. Regardless of the fake news, Ukraine is up against one of the most powerful militaries on earth. I don't think the Israel situation and the Ukraine situation are comparable in that respect. It remains inevitable that Russia will prevail. All we (In the states) REALLY care about here is making sure Russia pays a price, but since they have shown they are willing to pay, they will prevail. It seems that Ukraine is serving Western purposes for now (With their lives).
Just pointing out that a tiny population country like Israel can have a very powerful military force...
....even taking their nukes out of the equation .....Egypt has like 100 million population....
Iran has almost 90 million .....but they would have a tough time with Israel....
If Russia's miltary is so powerful ....why have they lost half of what they took since February 24th 2022....
poster keep saying Russia is winning .....Ukraine is on the ropes.....I'm still waiting bro
You and Putin seem to refuse to accept the fact that Russia military is extremely weak. Ukraine will continue getting more and more Western hardware assistant. If you think that Russia will be able to hold on the area they took from Ukraine, you really should recheck the reality.
You need to stop guzzling the propaganda kool aide, and begin listening to the legitimate assessments that come from honest sources. Ukraine is dead. The official announcement has just not been made public.
You need to stop guzzling the propaganda kool aide, and begin listening to the legitimate assessments that come from honest sources. Ukraine is dead. The official announcement has just not been made public.
Ukraine is about get F16(early 2024), they have recently cross left bank of Dnipro river and you think Ukraine is dead. Keep believing your reality.
Just pointing out that a tiny population country like Israel can have a very powerful military force...
....even taking their nukes out of the equation .....Egypt has like 100 million population....
Iran has almost 90 million .....but they would have a tough time with Israel....
If Russia's miltary is so powerful ....why have they lost half of what they took since February 24th 2022....
poster keep saying Russia is winning .....Ukraine is on the ropes.....I'm still waiting bro
First off, it’s brain dead nonsense to say Russia has lost half of what they took. Russia still has every last inch of territory they annexed, which comprises about 20% of what used to be Ukraine. They haven’t lost a thing.
Ukraine is about get F16(early 2024), they have recently cross left bank of Dnipro river and you think Ukraine is dead. Keep believing your reality.
Did you not even watch the posted video explaining how F16’s aren’t going to be of any strategic value to Ukraine, particularly in the near term, or alter the outcome of the war, which is effectively lost now?
They have no pilots to fly them, no maintenance infrastructure to keep them in the air if they had the pilots, nor do they have the forward air bases and air strips to operate them from. It would take the Ukrainians years to establish that infrastructure, and any attempt to build such air bases would be immediately taken out by the Russians.
Just pointing out that a tiny population country like Israel can have a very powerful military force...
It is true that a small country can have a powerful military. Israel has prioritized their military and is fighting against a group that has no air force, no submarines, no ships.
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If Russia's miltary is so powerful ....why have they lost half of what they took since February 24th 2022....
poster keep saying Russia is winning .....Ukraine is on the ropes.....I'm still waiting bro
Russia seems to be ok with slowing strangling Ukraine, which they are doing. There hasn't been a need for dramatic sweeps. Ukrainian population is draining on its own. Western powers are slowly losing interest. Russia will win just by being a little patient, so militarily it seems like a wise move on their part for now. It will cost Russia, but in the end they will prevail. Meanwhile, the Western way of life will take a hit as well, meanwhile China and India benefit from the below market price oil.
Did you not even watch the posted video explaining how F16’s aren’t going to be of any strategic value to Ukraine, particularly in the near term, or alter the outcome of the war, which is effectively lost now?
They have no pilots to fly them, no maintenance infrastructure to keep them in the air if they had the pilots, nor do they have the forward air bases and air strips to operate them from. It would take the Ukrainians years to establish that infrastructure, and any attempt to build such air bases would be immediately taken out by the Russians.
That video is pure bs. Ukraine has multiple pilots being trained. The initial group is going to be graduating in early 2024.
You and Putin seem to refuse to accept the fact that Russia military is extremely weak. Ukraine will continue getting more and more Western hardware assistant. If you think that Russia will be able to hold on the area they took from Ukraine, you really should recheck the reality.
If the Russian military is extremely weak, why haven't they been pushed out of Ukraine yet? How many months has it been since the Russians entered Ukraine? After all, the Ukrainians started out with a superb NATO trained army with loads of NATO equipment and troops numbering in the hundreds of thousands. Yet they failed to push out the Russians then and are powerless to push them out now. And after all the NATO equipment that they received. Game changing weapons. And yet they failed anyway. Against allegedly weak Russian forces. The Ukrainian counteroffensive that started on June 4 has failed against supposed weak Russian forces. What gives?
Western weapons and hardware are now running out. This equipment has to now be preserved for the upcoming Mideast conflict. The West is now pivoting to protect Israel. Less and less assistance to Ukraine. Ukraine's days of existence are numbered while Russian forces continue to grow, amassing more troops and number of weapons. That's the reality.
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