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I'll have to disagree. Russia will continue to occupy the largest landmass in the world...and will very likely wind up with parts of Ukraine, maybe a lot of it. In addition, as if Russian resources weren't enough, the Russian tundra and its additional resources are slowly thawing. It doesn't matter if there are 200 million Russians or 100 million Russians. If they need additional people to work, they can pay and import them, even make citizens of some of them if they want. The Western countries need Russia more than Russia needs them. Ukraine appears to be accelerating the inevitable Western decline.
Will it matter if there are 50 million?
'Cause that's a lot closer to the reality. 200 million is off the table, of course, and 100 million will come along pretty soon. For that matter, demographers tell us Russia will never grow again.
The federation itself will probably come apart at some point. The decline, which started in 1992, will continue simply because there is no way to stop it.
Turns out Europe did not freeze last year, and Russia genuinely thought they would.
And it turned out Russia could not starve out Africa. They couldn't even halt Ukraine shipments of grain.
Russia assumed they were much more important than they are.
Will it matter if there are 50 million?
'Cause that's a lot closer to the reality. 200 million is off the table, of course, and 100 million will come along pretty soon. For that matter, demographers tell us Russia will never grow again.
The federation itself will probably come apart at some point. The decline, which started in 1992, will continue simply because there is no way to stop it.
They suffer from a common issue they share with Japan, population decline, but then Russia also suffers from brain drain. They've lost a LOT more of their best and brightest when they ran from the country at the start of the transcriptions. But even before that most Russians with a education left for better futures in other countries.
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Turns out Europe did not freeze last year, and Russia genuinely thought they would.
And it turned out Russia could not starve out Africa. They couldn't even halt Ukraine shipments of grain.
Japan had a sub that launched balloons with incendiaries to start what they thought would be massive fires that would damage the us so bad it would leave the war. Missing that lightning strikes occur regularly so they weren't going to burn the country down.
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Russia assumed they were much more important than they are.
They put a lot of work into being important. NATO even recognized that it was becoming a issue. They WERE important. But they were replaceable. And at a non-ruinous level. But moving away from Russia for supplies came at a cost. Russia just assumed no one would pay that cost. They were wrong. They also did not seem to comprehend how vulnerable their pipelines were.
Will it matter if there are 50 million?
'Cause that's a lot closer to the reality. 200 million is off the table, of course, and 100 million will come along pretty soon. For that matter, demographers tell us Russia will never grow again.
The federation itself will probably come apart at some point. The decline, which started in 1992, will continue simply because there is no way to stop it.
Turns out Europe did not freeze last year, and Russia genuinely thought they would.
And it turned out Russia could not starve out Africa. They couldn't even halt Ukraine shipments of grain.
Russia assumed they were much more important than they are.
No, no larger number is 'off the table'....and only near the end of time will Russia see 50 million. Russia has plenty of land mass to build as it sees fit. It also has plenty of resources and money. If their people aren't having enough children, they can choose to take on immigrants, if not, then more land for all those that are there already.
Russia had/has no intent of 'starving out Africa' that is a western born idea which has failed. Most countries of Africa are more on Russia's side than the Western side, and that is despite the lure of western money and the stick of Western sanctions. In addition, I doubt you are privy to what Russia 'genuinely thought', which makes the point of freezing out Europe moot also. Russia is a lot more unified than the US is.
No, no larger number is 'off the table'....and only near the end of time will Russia see 50 million. Russia has plenty of land mass to build as it sees fit. It also has plenty of resources and money. If their people aren't having enough children, they can choose to take on immigrants, if not, then more land for all those that are there already.
Russia had/has no intent of 'starving out Africa' that is a western born idea which has failed. Most countries of Africa are more on Russia's side than the Western side, and that is despite the lure of western money and the stick of Western sanctions. In addition, I doubt you are privy to what Russia 'genuinely thought', which makes the point of freezing out Europe moot also. Russia is a lot more unified than the US is.
Russia is losing a war against a country 1/3 its size. They're taking disproportionate casualties the likes of which they have not seen since WW2. And theyre the bad guys in it internationally causing the vast majority of the world to cut them off.
Unified? They just had a for real shooting civil war with Wagner.
And all that empty land, and resources? Cool. Unfortunately weve seen how efficiently Russia has used all of that, although to be fair its been good for the megayacht industry.
No, no larger number is 'off the table'....and only near the end of time will Russia see 50 million. Russia has plenty of land mass to build as it sees fit. It also has plenty of resources and money. If their people aren't having enough children, they can choose to take on immigrants, if not, then more land for all those that are there already.
Russia had/has no intent of 'starving out Africa' that is a western born idea which has failed. Most countries of Africa are more on Russia's side than the Western side, and that is despite the lure of western money and the stick of Western sanctions. In addition, I doubt you are privy to what Russia 'genuinely thought', which makes the point of freezing out Europe moot also. Russia is a lot more unified than the US is.
Russia only permits around 5,000 immigrants a year.
If someday Russia was to change their policies I suspect, there would be much more immigration into their country from people looking for work. Apparently, Russia hasn't seen a need to increase their number of immigrants to this point.
Ive seen this story already today on Twitter, with all the "righteous anger and indignation" - how dare Russians kidnap Ukrainian citizens, "international law prohibits" and yada-yada-yada.
But that's the forces that scream that "Russia didn't have the right to start this war, Russia has to do what America tells her to do" and so on.
But since Russians obviously are not going to listen any of it ( keeping in mind that America was behind this Ukraine/Russia conflict to begin with,) let's look at the situation realistically.
Of course Ukraine is trying to posture and pretend that it has "the agency," and this "agency" is not happy that it's losing population like crazy.
( This process started back in 2014, when Eastern Ukrainians began migrating to Russia, once their factories were shut down by "Europeanization" process, and Western/Central Ukrainians started migrating to Poland in droves in search of jobs, because according to the "Europianization" plan, once Ukraine was set to operate in "optimal way," according to Western corporations, the surplus of Ukrainian labor force was supposed to become the cheap alternative to Polish labor, which in its turn migrated to UK and the rest of EU.
And then came the war, and Russians took about additional 2 million Ukrainians to Russia within the first few months of SMO, which included... 307,000 children ( at least that's the number I see here, on Russian Interfax.)
The idiot Ukrainian Karens apparently are presenting them all as "kidnapped Ukrainian children," that immediately sets alarm in the minds of the gullible Westerners, who paint in their imagination the horrors of Russian military taking the hapless children at a gun point from Ukrainian parents and shipping them all en mass "in Siberia."
Russians in their turn, hearing about all these "thousands upon thousands kidnapped Ukrainian children," start scratching their heads, wondering where they could be, since their gov. assistance programs couldn't possibly absorb them.
But obviously these are not "kidnapped Ukrainian children," since they left Ukraine together with their parents.
There are very few Ukrainian children FROM THE ORPHANAGES, that Russians are coming across in the war zones from time to time, and obviously, instead of "organizing their shipment to Ukrainian territories" ( how do you picture that?) they ship them away from the war zones either to LDNR or to "Russia proper."
So these are the children that you can consider "kidnapped."
However does it mean that Ukraine has thousands upon thousands of children in orphanages in South-Eastern Ukraine?
Of course not.
It's the crazy Ukrainian Karens that are making up all these stories about "thousands kidnapped Ukrainian children."
Last edited by erasure; 11-24-2023 at 11:59 PM..
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