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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 198 39.52%
No 254 50.70%
Unsure 49 9.78%
Voters: 501. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-22-2023, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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I've actually never heard that. Well, other than on C-D Forum.
Rofl, this "domino-theory" has been spouted nonstop since even before the war began. The other claim is that if Russia wins in Ukraine then China will invade Taiwan and threaten its other neighbors.

So basically, they claim not only one domino-theory, but a double domino-theory if we don't support Ukraine.

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Russia is merely being asked to remain within Russian borders. I don't think its too much to ask.
No. Russia is being asked to ignore the pleas of their brethren in Ukraine after a CIA-orchestrated coup, and to let Ukraine be militarized against them. Russia is being asked to accept something that America would NEVER accept. Moreover, the stated goals of the west are regime-change in Moscow(and balkanization) via "overextending" Russia.

I hope (((Zelensky))) is drawn-and-quartered for provoking Russia into a war in exchange for American money. Every Ukrainian (((oligarch))) deserves to be shot for needlessly getting white people killed when they could have simply implemented Minsk(you know, the thing they agreed to) and none of this would have happened.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on1RrmspFIQ

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Old 11-23-2023, 03:39 AM
 
Location: Durham NC
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When war, death and destruction “warms your heart”, you’re claiming a temperature increase in something you don’t actually have.

Aside that sad reality, Ukraine is in total shambles, and a defeated country, who have sacrificed a massive majority of its young men … upwards of 450,000-650,000 dead, wounded and maimed. An absolute human tragedy of epic proportions.

Now we are seeing the puppet masters slowly backing away, as they switch from their lost war in Ukraine, to their next victims in Israel and Gaza.

Congrats to the many soulless here who have cheered on this Satanic human sacrifice. May you burn in the fires of hell, where you certainly belong.
They just don't get it.
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Old 11-23-2023, 05:04 AM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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'Reporting from Ukraine' update...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEPwAJhR_uQ
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Old 11-23-2023, 05:33 AM
 
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'Reporting from Ukraine' update...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEPwAJhR_uQ
The remote controlled machine gun set up is a good idea.

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Old 11-23-2023, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Michigan, Maryland-born
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Rofl, this "domino-theory" has been spouted nonstop since even before the war began. The other claim is that if Russia wins in Ukraine then China will invade Taiwan and threaten its other neighbors.

So basically, they claim not only one domino-theory, but a double domino-theory if we don't support Ukraine.



No. Russia is being asked to ignore the pleas of their brethren in Ukraine after a CIA-orchestrated coup, and to let Ukraine be militarized against them. Russia is being asked to accept something that America would NEVER accept. Moreover, the stated goals of the west are regime-change in Moscow(and balkanization) via "overextending" Russia.


I hope (((Zelensky))) is drawn-and-quartered for provoking Russia into a war in exchange for American money. Every Ukrainian (((oligarch))) deserves to be shot for needlessly getting white people killed when they could have simply implemented Minsk(you know, the thing they agreed to) and none of this would have happened.
What difference does the race of those dying make?

War is awful, regardless of the skin tone of those dying.



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When war, death and destruction “warms your heart”, you’re claiming a temperature increase in something you don’t actually have.

Aside that sad reality, Ukraine is in total shambles, and a defeated country, who have sacrificed a massive majority of its young men … upwards of 450,000-650,000 dead, wounded and maimed. An absolute human tragedy of epic proportions.

Now we are seeing the puppet masters slowly backing away, as they switch from their lost war in Ukraine, to their next victims in Israel and Gaza.

Congrats to the many soulless here who have cheered on this Satanic human sacrifice. May you burn in the fires of hell, where you certainly belong.
It is extremely sad to see people cheering on death and destruction as if it were a football game. However, keep your heart clean and don't wish ill will on them.


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I think it's high time than inane remark, that we hear so often, receives a reply.


Lessee, the population of Ukraine is 37.2M according to Worldometer. That's probably pretty accurate.
Ukraine has lost, let's say, 200,000 people in 18 months, so that would be about 130,000 per year.
37.2M/130K = 206 years.
Sounds good to me.
Human life never should be some math formula.

There is nothing more sacred than life.
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Old 11-23-2023, 07:10 AM
 
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They just don't get it.
A lot of them do get it. They are just doing their jobs in promoting Ukraine and denigrating Russia. Pushing Ukrainian-friendly propaganda sites that distort reality. No logic or historical facts are needed for this. Or sensitivity to people's suffering or a sense of decorum.

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Old 11-23-2023, 08:28 AM
 
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Grenade destroyed Russian BMP-1. More invading animals killed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MF8UDqRatDw
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Old 11-23-2023, 09:04 AM
 
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Ward Caroll talked with Justin Bronk about the Ukraine war. Ward Caroll was a navy F-14 pilot. Justin Bronk is a professor and analyst at RUSI (the British version of ISW). Both of these men are among my favorite people. Long video but worth a watch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmMclP8dlI0
It’s worth watching only if you are able to read between the lines, without attempting to make it fit the propaganda driven assumptions, thereby missing the inevitable conclusions being put forth.

All of the hoopla of sending Ukraine F16s may be another avenue for the war profiteers to benefit, but from a strategic military standpoint, it’s little more than magical thinking, for the reasons Bronk tactfully explained.

Even if a significant number of F16s were delivered to Ukraine, they do not have the trained pilots, the maintenance infrastructure, or the forward operating bases to utilize them, and the Professor admits this, as well as admitting that such a situation would take a couple of years to accomplish, and require a whole lot more resources than Ukraine has available.

The bottom line is, Ukraine doesn’t have a couple more years. Its military is already devastated, and barely functional in terms of maintaining a defensive front, and totally incapable of pursuing effective offensive operations, primarily due to its lack of air capabilities necessary for supporting such offensives. This is why Ukraine has suffered such massive troop losses, because they have pressed forward in spite of having no effective air support for such forward offensives, so as the Ukrainian forces advance, they are literally massacred by Russian artillery and air attacks before ever getting close enough to entrenched Russian positions to force Russians to retreat. This is literally a mass sacrifice of Ukrainian men and women as pure cannon fodder, with no hope of achieving any military objective other than inflicting marginal casualties on the Russians.

The truth is, Ukraine was never going to defeat the Russians, right from the outset, and particularly as it evolved into a conflict of attrition to which the Russians have an overwhelming advantage in terms of human and material resources. The West, and particularly the United States had to know this right from the beginning, contrary to all of the BS fed to the public, and the grandstanding on the world stage.

Now, it’s just a matter of how much longer the bloodshed continues, and how much more Ukraine will be forced to endure in this no-win situation the West have thrust them into, before finding an off-ramp.

If the full truth be known, the United States and NATO are far and away the greater enemy of Ukrainian people than Russia has ever been. We created this conflict, and have used Ukraine as a proxy to inflict punishment on Russia for geopolitical purposes, without the least bit of concern for the horrific consequences to the Ukrainian people. It’s really a crime against humanity, when all is said and done.

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Old 11-23-2023, 11:06 AM
 
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I think it's high time than inane remark, that we hear so often, receives a reply.


Lessee, the population of Ukraine is 37.2M according to Worldometer. That's probably pretty accurate.
Ukraine has lost, let's say, 200,000 people in 18 months, so that would be about 130,000 per year.
37.2M/130K = 206 years.
Sounds good to me.
Math is off. Prewar, Ukraine had around 44million people. A couple years in they now have 37 million. Of those 37 million, many of those million aren't even on Ukraine's side, and want Russia to win. Many others are war injured or too elderly to fight. Military is already taking some old men, and young women into their front lines. That is an indicator that they don't have manpower. I guess Russia will just keep mowing them down until they grind them all away and force an end to the war.
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Old 11-23-2023, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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What difference does the race of those dying make?
It's not about the race of the victims, it's about the race of the corrupt Ukrainian oligarchy who is being paid by the United States to kidnap Ukrainian men off the streets and send them to their deaths, and by extension to destroy the Ukrainian people and nation, after whipping them into a hysteria through total ideological control via propaganda, indoctrination, and other forms of manipulation.

The leadership of Ukraine is not white, not Christian, and not Ukrainian. A similar dynamic is true in America for that matter. If the Ukrainian oligarchs were Ukrainian, they wouldn't be destroying Ukraine for money. The tribe to which Zelensky belongs hates white people, and brown people, and black people.

As the bible says, they are the enemies of all mankind.

https://www.biblestudytools.com/wnt/...ians/2-15.html

They want war with everyone using other people's men for their profit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyMZ5DzjRP8

They start and/or provoke wars everywhere based on lies.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180823....com/1.4764706

https://rumble.com/v2cbgqs-ron-unz-9...r-tv-irib.html

https://rumble.com/v2cbhg2-ron-unz-9...r-tv-irib.html

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"It is impossible to conceive of a Jew apart from his religion. They are all waiting for their messiah, all of them, from the lowest Yid to the highest and most learned philosopher and rabbi-Kabalist. They all believe that their messiah will unite them in Jerusalem and bring by his sword, all nations to their feet.

The Yid and his bank are now ruling over everything: over Europe, education, civilization, socialism, especially socialism, for he will use it to uproot Christianity and destroy its civilization. And when only anarchy remains, the Yid will be in command of everything. For while the Jew goes about preaching socialism, he will stick together with his own, and after all the riches of Europe have been wasted, the Yid’s bank will still be there." - Fyodor Dostoyevsky, 1877
"You must understand, the leading Bolsheviks who took over Russia were not Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. Driven by ethnic hatred they tortured and slaughtered millions of Russians without a shred of human remorse. It cannot be overstated. Bolshevism committed the greatest human slaughter of all time. The fact that most of the world is ignorant and uncaring about this enormous crime is proof that the global media is in the hands of the perpetrators." - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, Nobel Laureate
https://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/un...-900quotes.htm

I'm sick of these people. At least Palestine is waking the world up to their hypocrisy and perfidy. Please god save us from these criminals.

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