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Yes 45 68.18%
No 19 28.79%
Unsure 2 3.03%
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Old 06-07-2013, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Florida
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No, we see this as an issue of individual freedom of choice. The gov'ts interest is in protecting the pharmaceutical industry, who's legal drugs are no safer, no cheaper, no less dangerous. The opposite could be argued. Legal scripts probably cost the tax payers much more in money and quality of life, either by causing harm or by masking the problem, or inventing a problem to treat at our expense. We have millions upon millions in this country on disability. I would guess that all of them are on at least one legal drug.

If you are pro-legal drugs and against illegal, you are just a tool for the gov't special interest, BigPharma.
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The argument I keep hearing is that we should offer them treatment and some even promote the Dutch model of handing out taxpayer funded heroin.

 
Old 06-07-2013, 12:35 PM
 
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all drugs will never end, but a different method would be better than the failed methods being used now.

portugal is better now than it was 12 years ago caused they tried a different method..
Portugal is not better now than before. I showed you the hard facts about Portugal, and they have seen a sharp increase in drug use ( for example cocaine use has doubled), and drug related fatalities has increased.
 
Old 06-07-2013, 01:38 PM
 
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Portugal is not better now than before. I showed you the hard facts about Portugal, and they have seen a sharp increase in drug use ( for example cocaine use has doubled), and drug related fatalities has increased.
your bugus link just doesn't cut it.. if it were true explain to me why would the Portugal's government keep a failing decriminalized drug policy in effect for 11 years
 
Old 06-07-2013, 01:40 PM
 
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your bugus link just doesn't cut it.. if it were true explain to me why would the Portugal's government keep a failing decriminalized drug policy in effect for 11 years
The data is accurate, and what Portuguese government chooses to do about it is their business.
 
Old 06-07-2013, 01:42 PM
 
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The argument I keep hearing is that we should offer them treatment and some even promote the Dutch model of handing out taxpayer funded heroin.

better than jail, jail cost like 40 grand a year and if you get sick in jail that number skyrockets, who pays for that not to mention all the wasted court time, police enforcement time..
 
Old 06-07-2013, 01:44 PM
 
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The data is accurate, and what Portuguese government chooses to do about it is their business.

that report is bogus!!! here again you support a failed policy based on your bogus study
 
Old 06-07-2013, 01:46 PM
 
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After the Communists took over China in 1949 they rounded up the drug users and put them into treatment or shot them. They told them point blank that there was no second chance and the problem went away. They Chinese government did the same thing back in the 1800's with people addicted to drugs. We should do the same thing now. Give the drug users some time picking beans in the hot sun for rehab and if they go back to drugs, put them back into the bean fields.
Yeah, screw the Constitution, China is the government we should strive to emulate!
 
Old 06-07-2013, 01:48 PM
 
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face it fin, you are way out numbered these days especially with marijuana. every single poll I see on the net is way for than against its just a matter of time and weed will be legal in almost all states, take those facts and smoke that in your pipe...
 
Old 06-07-2013, 01:48 PM
 
Location: USA
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Portugal is not better now than before. I showed you the hard facts about Portugal, and they have seen a sharp increase in drug use ( for example cocaine use has doubled), and drug related fatalities has increased.
Can you describe in what ways Portugal is not better then before? Statistics only show a glimpse of any situation so I'm interested to hear why you draw these conclusions. Do you work in criminal justice? Law enforcement? For the government?


They reported a success as far as their change in strategy towards their drug problem. Young people (KIDS) are using drugs less and their addiction population is on the decline.


Please explain to me how exactly Ending the Drug War wasn't a success.
 
Old 06-07-2013, 01:50 PM
 
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Yeah, screw the Constitution, China is the government we should strive to emulate!
The latest trend of his type of post just make me smack my head too. Ridiculous. They'll be the same ones arguing blindly for crony capitalism and calling others communist/socialist.
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