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Old 10-11-2011, 03:30 PM
 
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I have been thinking about this for a long time. It seems so obvious that doctors are culpable in creating prescription drug addicts . . . yet, it continues . . . why?

Are they deliberately attempting to create addicts in some kind of collusion with drug companies (pharmaceutical companies typically employ hot young women to call on male doctors and give them lots of free samples . . . does this create an incentive to want to prescribe those drugs?)

Are they simply ignorant and don't realize that the drugs they are prescribing are addictive? The doctors I know don't even ask if people have issues with addiction . . .they just go ahead and prescribe massive amounts of strong, addictive drugs.

Personal anecdote: My doctor is part of a large HMO. I consider her to be a very good doctor . . .but she has 1500 patients, give or take. The few times I have been in to see her, she offered me very strong prescriptions, all of which I took but never filled . . . I feel this is typical, operating procedure - to prescribe powerful drugs without giving it a thought.

I wonder, at the end of the year, how many of this doctors patients will become addicted? 10% 20% 50%????

Where is the training and just plain common sense in prescribing addictive drugs?
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Old 10-11-2011, 03:34 PM
 
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Do the patients not have responsibility not to take presecription medications which may lead to addictions?

You know those manufacturers' tiny print enclosures which pharmaceutical companies publish? Read them before taking any medication. If most people chose to read all the possible side effects they would be so cavalier about taking medications, IMO. YMMV.
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Old 10-11-2011, 03:53 PM
 
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In Oklahoma, they have "pain doctors" they are nothing more than legalized pushers. They prescribe 150 hydrocodone at once. That is just crazy.
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Old 10-11-2011, 03:57 PM
 
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In Oklahoma, they have "pain doctors" they are nothing more than legalized pushers. They prescribe 150 hydrocodone at once. That is just crazy.
I wonder why ethical doctors don't speak up.
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Old 10-11-2011, 04:09 PM
 
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Doctore4 who go this do so bt violatig the law. of course they have conspiractors with the individual alos. Its just like drug realers i that respect.Any professio can be a crominal ;really.
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Old 10-11-2011, 04:20 PM
 
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There are a multitude of reasons for this. FL had an epidemic going on right now. Hundreds of doctors are being arrested for running pain pill shops. They are causing a lot of narcotic addiction and most of the people going to these places are just addicts. People seem to think doctors are in some way holier and morally superior to other people in society. Not so. Doctors are like everyone else. They cave in the face of money and temptation too. These doctors in FL who have been arrested have made millions. One group of doctors and others were walking trash bags full of money out the doors on a weekly basis. I think they found a couple of the guys and together when they were arrested seized like $40 mllion in cash. It's absolutely crazy. But to answer your question doctors want happy patients. They practice protocol based medicine. Meaning if you come in with a set of symptoms they learn and are taught to throw drugs at them and "manage" your health. Many people have legitimate pain issues and some don't. Doctors can't always differentiate so they prescribe narcs to whoever says they are in pain. For healthcare professionals the mantra is a patient's pain is whatever they say it is. Combine this with pressure and huge incentives from big pharma, fear of getting sued for not managing pain, whiney bitchy patients and of course doctors will prescribe anything.
But the funny thing is if I go into my doctor and ask him for a little testosterone or maybe some thyroid medication for my wife to lose some weight they will have a meltdown and lecture you about drugs. Doctors are some of the biggest idiot morons around when it comes to managing health and disease because that is all they are taught in medical school.......how to manage disease and treat symptoms. Most know nothing about REAL nutrition, alternative medicine, herbal remedies, etc.

Many doctors are very ethical though and will not overly prescribe what is not needed. But I was watching that Intervention show on A n E last night and it featured a young alcoholic in her 20's who was taking daily doses of xanax and lortabs. I was thinking to myself who the hell is giving her these prescriptions? Doesn't her doctor realize she is an alcoholic. But then I thought to myself most doctors spend 5-15 minutes with their patients and hardly spend anytime getting to know them anymore. That relationship between doctors and patient has been destroyed. I've NEVER had my doctor call me about of the blue and ask me how my health is...........my pediatrician when I was growing up would call a few times a year and check up on us and talk to my mom and make sure things were going well, did she have any needs/questions. But he was also 77 years old 20 years ago so he came from a different generation.
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Old 10-11-2011, 04:37 PM
 
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As abuse mounted, DEA boosted painkiller supply - Drugs - Salon.com

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An epidemic of Oxycodone abuse has struck America in the last decade. The number of emergency room visits stemming from non-medical abuse of the narcotic prescription painkiller drug rose by 256 percent between 2004 and 2009, according to the U.S. government’s Drug Abuse Warning Network.

In March 2010, Washington state Attorney General Rob McKenna said his state was “losing more people to prescription drug overdoses in a typical year than to traffic accidents.” In Florida, the Medical Examiners commission found more than 1,500 people died of Oxycodone overdose in 2010, a four-fold increase over the 350 who died in 2005. The supply of Oxycodone, says Jim Hall, director of the Center for the Study and Prevention of Substance Abuse at Nova Southeastern University, went “far beyond the legitimate medical need of the state.”

The epidemic is not likely to abate soon. The explosion of pain management clinics in Florida, dubbed “pill mills,” prompted the state Legislature last year to close a loophole that had allowed physicians to fill Oxy prescriptions on the spot. Authorities say a half-billion doses of Oxycodone and its generic equivalents were distributed in the state during 2009 alone. An unknown number wound up in the hands of “patients” who had come from out of state to have prescriptions filled by multiple pill mills, before driving home to resell the pills on the black market.

One of the most disturbing things about the prescription pain pill abuse epidemic is that it could have been avoided, or at least mitigated, if the DEA had fulfilled the responsibilities vested in it under federal law.

That’s the view of Gene Haislip, who, until his retirement in 1997, spent 17 years as the head of a one of the least-publicized law enforcement entities in Washington: the Drug Enforcement Administration’s Office of Diversion Control.

“For those of us who devoted our careers to the DEA and drug enforcement, we really love the agency, but you can’t love them when they screw up,” Haislip told Salon. “You’ve got to have some kind of principles.”

It’s well known that narcotic prescription drugs sold in the United States must first be approved by U.S. Food and Drug Administration before they can be legally mass produced and marketed. Less known is the fact that the DEA – and specifically, the Office of Diversion Control – then has the power and responsibility to decide how much of a particular drug can be legally manufactured and sent to market each year.

The pharmaceutical companies that make Oxycodone and its two dozen generic equivalents — such as Endocodone, Oxyfast and Percocet — are required by law to present an annual application to the Office of Diversion Control seeking approval for a quota of the drug’s annual production. Should a company desire to manufacture more than the previous year, it must request an increase — and the DEA must approve.

The DEA declined to respond to my request for the names of the companies that have been granted the biggest manufacturing quota increases in recent years. But information gleaned from the agency’s website, combined with statistics provided by Haislip, show the aggregate increase granted to all companies making the potent painkiller has been staggering.

In 1997, a year after prescription drugmaker Purdue Pharma first brought Oxycontin (the first branded version of Oxycodone) to market, the total production quota approved by the Office of Diversion Control was 8.3 tons. By 2011, it had risen to 105 tons, an officially sanctioned 1,200 percent increase over the same period that saw Oxycodone emerge as what Haislip calls “the Cadillac of America’s prescription drug abuse crisis.”

That the DEA allowed for the increases in the face of widespread illegal and non-medical use shows a ”serious lack of accountability and oversight,” says Haislip.

“The DEA is the lone federal agency with the power to decide how much of the drug gets made and put out there; it alone has had all the responsibility to do something about this problem,” he said. “The way I did it for 17 years, which was basically the way it had always been done even before the DEA was the DEA, is that when a significant diversion problem occurred, the quota increase requests would come under greater scrutiny.”

“With Oxy,” said Haislip, “there has been a significant diversion problem since the late 1990s, so the requests should have come under greater scrutiny.” That apparently didn’t happen, he says.

What’s particularly disturbing, Haislip asserts, is that the DEA has failed to draw wisdom from two clear-cut examples over the past 40 years in which manufacturing quotas were cut as a means of reducing widespread abuse.

The first occurred in the early 1970s when pill-based amphetamines became a staple of America’s black-market drug trade. In 1973, the DEA enforced a 90 percent reduction in domestic amphetamine production over two years, resulting in what John E. Ingersoll, director of the DEA’s predecessor agency, the Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs, told Congress was “a sharp reduction” in the illicit market.

A second example occurred during the early 1980s, when Haislip had first taken over the DEA’s newly minted Office of Diversion Control. Between 1980 and 1982, the office enforced a 74 percent cut in the manufacturing quota for Methaqualone, the core ingredient of the sedative-hypnotic drugs known as Quaaludes. The quota cuts, coupled with a coordinated effort to block illegal international flows of the drug into the United States, had effectively erased the problem of Methaqualone abuse.

The DEA’s unwillingness to embrace such a strategy toward Oxycodone perplexes those now battling the abuse crisis at the state and local level.

“If containing the number of prescription opiates is as simple as just the DEA limiting quotas, it’s really kind of tragic that loss of life and the carnage associated with this could have been prevented,” said Orman Hall, director of Ohio’s Department of Alcohol and Drug Addiction Services, told me.

Just a few days before, Gil Kerlikowske, director of the White House Office on National Drug Control Policy, had appeared at a series of events in Ohio as part of a theatrical rolling out of President Obama’s 2011 National Drug Control Strategy. Responding to “America’s prescription drug abuses epidemic,” the plan calls for an expansion of state-based prescription drug monitoring programs and emphasizes education programs for patients and prescribers. The plan makes no reference to the possibility that market oversaturation could be a cause of the epidemic.

When I asked ONDCP if the 900 percent increase in opioids prescribed in Ohio might represent oversaturation of the market, the office provided me with a series of unrelated talking points from a press release on the White House plan. My request to interview ONDCP officials was ignored. Perhaps most disconcerting was ONDCP’s response to my question about DEA approval of manufacturing quotas for narcotic opioids:

“DEA and FDA work together to establish the quotas for controlled substances,” the spokesman wrote. “Our data show that dispensed prescriptions for opioids between 2008 and 2009 did not increase. This stabilization in dispensed prescriptions was then followed by a period of flattening in the total production quota for oxycodone, hydrocodone, methadone, morphine, and oxymorphone in both 2010 and 2011. This suggests a leveling off in production.”

The realm of secrecy

The ONDCP response did not address the question of whether the prescription painkiller market had been oversaturated by production increase over the last decade. And given the massive production increases approved in the secretive decision-making process, the claim that the FDA and the DEA “work together” is less than reassuring. The website of the Office of Diversion Control contains a trove of general information about the quota-setting process, but those who work in the office are unwilling to provide specific details about which companies benefited from the production increases.

“We protect the data regarding the quantity that we give to individual companies so that they don’t know what each other is doing and get an unfair marketing advantage,” said Gary Boggs, a DEA supervisory special agent, in an interview.

When ask why such significant increases in Oxycodone manufacturing have been allowed in the last decade. Boggs asserted that the DEA is required by statute to set the quotas at a level that ensures “an uninterrupted supply for the legitimate medical and scientific research needs of the United Sates” and that those needs are “always changing as the population grows and as medical science finds different needs for products.”

“I can assure you that there’s no collusion between the drug companies and the DEA,” he said. “We battle quite regularly with the pharmaceutical industry on how much quota they ask for and how much they receive. On many instances, we do not give companies the amounts that they ask for.”

But wouldn’t the widespread abuse and diversion of a drug in recent years warrant cutting the quota, I asked?

“What you have to understand,” Boggs replied, “is that you do have legitimate patients and they’re fishing from the same pond that the illegitimate patients are fishing from, so you have to be cautious not to restrict the quota to the point that when the legitimate parties go to the pool, all the fish haven’t been taken out by the illegitimate parties.”

Boggs acknowledged the limitations of the metaphor, but added that “we can’t just be arbitrary and capricious in cutting the quota simply because we have a diversion problem.”

The fact is that the U.S. government has adopted a position on prescription painkillers that differs from its policy toward other controlled substances such as cocaine, heroin and marijuana: Unlike those drugs, the DEA says limiting the supply of the prescription painkillers will not reduce abuse.

So while the Justice Department’s 2010 National Drug Threat Assessment blames the staggering growth of prescription painkiller abuse on the “rapidly increasing distribution” of prescription opioids, it includes an inconspicuous footnote defending the DEA’s role in approving the rapidly increasing production of the drugs at the same time.

Contributing factors to quota increases include: more aggressive pain treatment, new and different indications for legitimate medical use, the increase in the average age of the citizenry, new delivery methods and formulations for opioid pain relievers, new product development, and exportation. Thus, decreased production is not viewed as a realistic means to reduce diversion.

The role of the FDA in the approval of manufacturing more prescription painkillers is also shrouded in secrecy. The FDA, said spokesman Shelly Burgess, supplies the DEA with annual reports “summarizing drug usage and shortage data, prescribing trends and estimates of futures needs.” But the FDA reports cannot be released publicly, she said, because they contain “commercial confidential information.”

Addiction “through devious means”

To understand why the FDA and DEA so protect the interests of certain companies, it’s worth remembering what Marcia Angell, former editor of the New England Journal of Medicine, pointed out in her 2004 book, “The Truth About the Drug Companies.” The Pharmaceutical Researchers and Manufacturers of America (PhRMA) employs more lobbyists in Washington than there are members of Congress.

Since 2007, the group has spent more than $20 million annually on lobbying in Washington to see that its interests are protected.

That influence is felt in the offices of the DEA, says Haislip.

“For a DEA official to put his or her neck on the line to block a company’s requested quota increase takes an awful lot of guts and a lot of hard work, particularly if that company is supporting members of Congress who have the power to block the agency’s funding,” he said.

All the big-name pharmaceutical companies that make Oxycodone products — including, but not limited to, Pfizer, Purdue Pharma and Endo Pharmaceuticals — are members of PhRMA. They also spend additional millions lobbying annually for their own specific interests. And they are the biggest donors to a national a nonprofit organization known as the American Pain Foundation. According to the organization’s most recent annual report, the American Pain Foundation had a budget of roughly $5 million for 2010. Endo Pharmaceuticals, the maker of a variety of Oxycodone-based painkillers including Percocet, gave more than $1 million. Pfizer and Purdue donated between $100,000 and a half-million last year.

The organization and others like it push the message, both publicly and in Congress, that “there is this supposed untreated pain epidemic in America,” says Philip Prior, a consultant to the Ohio Department of Alcohol and Drug Addiction Services. “They’ve launched this massive lobbying effort to promote prescription narcotics to treat everything. What the pharmaceutical companies have managed to do with narcotics over the last 20 years is essentially addict a large portion of our population through devious means.”

Prior’s view is shared by Frances Hughes, chief deputy to West Virginia Attorney General Darrell McGraw Jr., who brought a civil case against Purdue Pharma during the early 2000s, accusing the company of engaging in coercive and deceptive marketing techniques. By the middle of the decade, West Virginia was suffering the nation’s highest drug overdose death rate, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, with the majority of the deaths being linked to Oxycodone-based prescription drug abuse.

“All economics come down to supply and demand,” says Hughes. “We have a black market only because the supply exceeds legitimate demand and that’s always what I believed our case was about when I first started looking at this.”

From DEA to Big Pharma

The drug companies also benefit from a proverbial “revolving door” between government and special interests. West Virginia’s lawsuit was resolved in 2004 when Purdue Pharma agreed to pay $10 million over four years into drug abuse and education programs in the state. The settlement was negotiated on Purdue Pharma’s behalf by Eric Holder Jr., then a private attorney, who five years later became the chief of the Justice Department, which oversees DEA.

There is also a revolving door between the DEA’s Office of Diversion Control, and the pharmaceutical industry. For example, Mark W. Caverly served as chief of the Liaison and Policy Section within the Office of Diversion Control at DEA until early this year. It was his job to work with DEA-regulated industries and associations, providing interpretations of federal law and regulations to congressional staff, DEA registrants and the general public. In May, Cegedim Relationship Management, a consulting firm based in New Jersey and owned by a French multinational, announced it had hired Caverly. The firm specializes in facilitating “compliance” with DEA regulations.

Cegedim’s chief compliance officer, Ron W. Buzzeo, is himself a DEA retiree who served as a deputy director of the Office of Diversion Control from 1982 through 1990. In an interview, Buzzeo dismissed the suggestion that there might be a conflict of interest. “To help somebody meet the regulatory requirements? Why would that be a conflict of interest? I don’t understand the question,” he said.

Frances Hughes said the fact that people working in the Office of Diversion control know that they might get lucrative work with drug companies upon retirement constitutes a conflict of interest that prevents DEA officials from doing their duty.

“Are you really going to strike out and be on the front lines against an industry that you might depend on for a job after you retire from the DEA?” she asked. “No. Are you going to offer an opinion or do something that’s going to cut off your flow of money? No.”

“It’s insidious and the result is that you have agencies that become captive to the regulated industry,” Hughes added. “In this case, it would be terrible if we had the DEA being a captive of the pharmaceutical industry.”
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:39 AM
 
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Pain "management" in Fla is an MD making 7 figures a year writing prescriptions for narcotics. That's pain management.

Do NOT mention the facts that medical cannabis will help you REDUCE your opioid intake by a big margin. IN the empire of lies, Truth is rare and even when offered is barely recognizable.
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:48 AM
 
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Over time we have become a pill popping society.
Something ailing you ? Go to the doctor and "get a pill for that".

Big pharma pushes their stuff and have the $$$ and the clout.
A healthy people is NOT what they want.

A doctor who's first reaction is to "prescribe pills" is a red flag to me that says "find another doctor".
Too many pill happy doctors practicing medicine in the US today and big pharma is going to make sure it stays that way.

It always comes down to "follow the money" doesn't it ?
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Old 12-18-2012, 07:56 AM
 
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For all intents and purposes we've legalized heroin dealing, because these pills are basically synthetic heroin.

If I have to swipe my license to buy Claritan D and I'm limited to how much I can buy, why isn't the same thing happening for opiods? They should only be prescribed to people with cancer, or people who've recently had surgery. Opiod pain relievers are not long term solutions to pain, so why would someone with a chronic bad back be prescribed an opiod? Doesn't make sense.
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