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No, but my spouse served almost three years in Viet Nam. Have you served? Any why does that matter?
Yes, I have served. I made the comment in response to your previous post. The majority of people on here do not understand that the military is different. You can't call in sick. You can't give 2 weeks notice. You train, live, & work with dozens of other guys for weeks, months, and sometimes years at a time.
There are places that are off limits to soldiers. The Uniformed code of military justice (UCMJ) is the law for military members.
Gays act like their civil rights have been taken away. But, ALL military members have to sacrifice.
Barney Frank: Not Allowing Gays and Straights to Shower Together is ‘Discrimination’
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[LEFT]Not allowing gay military personnel to shower with straight military peronnel would be “discrimination.” That’s the position of Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA), an openly gay member of Congress who is a proponent of banishing the military’s “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy.
What is worng with this picture? So if this is discrimination, is not allowing men to shower with women discrimination too?
I didn't read all 288 posts that have preceded this one so don't know if this point was brought up but can someone enlighten me on a legal technicality?
When a law is repealed, and no new law is put into place, aren't we supposed to go back to what existed before the repealed law was enacted? That would take us back to no gays allowed in the military, wouldn't it?
The law that congress and the president just repealed was US Code, Title 10, Chapter 37, Section 654. That law previously banned homosexuals from serving in the military and required than anyone found out as gay must be dismissed from military service. Since they are no longer banned, they can now serve. The DADT executive order was Clinton's way to best circumvent a law he very much disagreed with. Technically, DADT wasn't really repealed - it simply goes away because the repeal of the law banning homosexuals from serving in the military renders it moot.
Had only DADT been repealed (which Obama could have done on his own), then you would have been correct - the underlying law banning homosexuals would still have remained and the military would once again have been able to ask about homosexuality.
Here is the law that was just repealed if you care to read it (the actual policy is halfway down after the 15 findings):
The mormon church till the 70's treated blacks as if they were 7/8's human and got away with it.
Uh... one of the main reasons the Mormons were driven out of their homes in Illinois in the middle of the winter and forced to head west across the Great Plains is that they tended to vote as a block and were overwhelmingly abolishonist.
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It is about hate when one uses their morals to deny people their rights.
Did you know that it was legal to kill a Mormon anywhere in Missouri until 1976? Now what were you saying about denying people their rights? I suspect you know a whole lot less about this issue than you think.
Finally, the US Congress and the majority of Americans recognize the need to repeal DADT. Why should anyone be forced to hide or lie about who they are. That's a disgrace, and I'm glad we got rid of that policy. Equal rights is slowing take full form in the US.
What amazes me about DADT and it's repeal is the fact that we are telling our professional troops who we entrust with our lives that we really can't trust them sexually! We know the military has a code of jusice so what makes people think that Gays who serve honorably are somehow going to go on some hedonistic sex splurge?
Now that this pressing issue has been decided the Obama administration has no excuse not to hurry up and win this war, now, and bring our soldiers home with victory and honor, asap.
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Barney Frank: Not Allowing Gays and Straights to Shower Together is ‘Discrimination’
