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Old 12-22-2010, 12:07 AM
 
Location: McKinleyville, California
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This disaster will be repealed in the next congress. It's over.
No chance in Hades. Equality will prevail. Discrimination and bigotry are antiquated, antisocial and are doomed for failure and an eventual demise. Growth and progress involve moving forward, not retrograding into our past, doomed to repeat our errors. Everyone in the USA should have the same rights and be treated as equals, not just straight people or god fearing people.
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Old 12-22-2010, 01:25 AM
 
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DADT was never a ban against homosexuals, it was to protect homosexuals against being harassed because they're homosexual.
Sure. And Jim Crow laws were created to protect blacks.

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Old 12-22-2010, 01:26 AM
 
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This disaster will be repealed in the next congress. It's over.
lol... Yeah, right. Dream on.

Let us know who's going to lead the fight to reinstate DADT. I'll look forward to watching the buffoon who tries to do it.
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Old 12-22-2010, 01:38 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Clinton instituted DADT for the benefit of homosexuals.

DADT was never a ban against homosexuals, it was to protect homosexuals against being harassed because they're homosexual. Gays have always been in the military.

We'll see how they do in the military now that it's repealed.
Homosexuals were previously banned from serving. Clinton wanted to let gays serve openly, but has some resistance, DADT was a compromise.
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Old 12-22-2010, 01:41 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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This disaster will be repealed in the next congress. It's over.
The GOP might have the votes in the House to overturn the repeal, but they sure as hell would not have the votes in the Senate to do so, not to mention the votes in either to override a veto.
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Old 12-22-2010, 01:42 AM
 
Location: In the Redwoods
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Homosexuals were previously banned from serving. Clinton wanted to let gays serve openly, but has some resistance, DADT was a compromise.
Source?
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Old 12-22-2010, 01:58 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Back in 1992, Clinton had promised several prominent backers he would overturn the longstanding military prohibition on homosexuality, and he tried to deliver on that promise immediately. He thought Congress and the country would go along because he had spoken of changing the policy in his campaign.

He was wrong. Resistance arose immediately within the military and among social conservatives, and Clinton soon found many in his own party deserting him in Congress. He was forced to fall back on a compromise.

The compromise had two parts. First, the military would stop trying to discover and discharge gays and lesbians. Second, those who let their orientation be known would still be subject to dismissal.

The policy was called "don't ask, don't tell." It pleased no one, but it let everyone move on. That is, after all, the essential function of a compromise. Congress codified it in 1993.

Ending Military's Gay Ban Lets Obama Fulfill Another Clinton Promise : It's All Politics : NPR
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Old 12-22-2010, 02:11 AM
 
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This is bad.
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Old 12-22-2010, 02:24 AM
 
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This whole issue is just a perfect example of govt tactics to get public focused emotionally on this non-issue rather than focus on asking and reacting to the real critical questions and issues at hand such as, WHAT THE HELL ARE WE DOING IN THESE WARS BASED ON LIES, GAY OR STRAIGHT, IN THE FIRST PLACE????!!!! Why aren't govt officials being put to trial and held accountable for the crimes committed by them via guantanamo bay, abu ghraib, lies that led to iraq war in first place???!!!
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Old 12-22-2010, 02:30 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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This whole issue is just a perfect example of govt tactics to get public focused emotionally on this non-issue rather than focus on asking and reacting to the real critical questions and issues at hand such as, WHAT THE HELL ARE WE DOING IN THESE WARS BASED ON LIES, GAY OR STRAIGHT, IN THE FIRST PLACE????!!!! Why aren't govt officials being put to trial and held accountable for the crimes committed by them via guantanamo bay, abu ghraib, lies that led to iraq war in first place???!!!
It is not a war "based on lies."
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