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Old 06-22-2012, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA
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Comparing Pittsburgh to Philly is like comparing Lancaster to New York City.

You can't compare Pittsburgh to Philly because they are two completely different cities.

Pittsburgh is a small and isolated place that has done well with it's revitalization efforts.

Philly is a huge metro area encompassing three states and is a world ranked entity.

Remember your place.




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The architecture in Pittsburgh is nicer than Philly. Yeah phillys downtown is even overrun by riff raff. You might have a nice area that two blocks down the road is overrun by thugs. Cost of living in Philly outrageous you need 400k to get into a decent suburb!
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Old 06-22-2012, 05:06 PM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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Architecturally, Pittsburgh is very, very different than either Cleveland or Buffalo. Both of those are great lake cities and the architecture and natural landscapes are lightyears away from Pittsburgh. The only similarities would be the industrial heritage and the declining populations. Pittsburgh has more in common, architecturally and scenery-wise, with other Appalachian cities. Johnstown or Wheeling could be its little brothers.
Actually, the east/west settlement of the United States can be detectable by architecture. The architecture of the Great Lakes was inspired by the architecture of southern New England, and the architecture of the Ohio River and the lower Midwest was inspired by the architecture of the Mid-Atlantic.

In southern New England, houses are more horizontal and set back from the road, and it's similar in all the Great Lakes cities. You can see the east/west progression of this in Hartford, Rochester, Buffalo, Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago and Milwaukee.

In the Mid-Atlantic, houses are more vertical and tight to the road, and it's similar in all the cities in the Ohio Valley and lower Midwest. You can see the east/west progression in Philadelphia, Baltimore, Washington DC, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Louisville and St. Louis.

If you draw a triangle with corners in Pittsburgh, Philadelphia and Washington DC, the area in or near that triangle is "rowhouse central." Pennsylvania and Maryland seem to have very similar architecture. It also bleeds into New Jersey, Delaware, northern Virginia and northern West Virginia.

New York is big enough to have influences from both styles, with "horizontal/set back" architecture to the north, and "vertical/tight" architecture to the south. If it has one more than the other, then it probably has more of the "vertical/tight" architecture.
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Old 06-22-2012, 05:33 PM
 
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1. Pittsburgh

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the rest is irrelevent
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Old 06-22-2012, 06:43 PM
 
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Comparing Pittsburgh to Philly is like comparing Lancaster to New York City.

You can't compare Pittsburgh to Philly because they are two completely different cities.

Pittsburgh is a small and isolated place that has done well with it's revitalization efforts.

Philly is a huge metro area encompassing three states and is a world ranked entity.

Remember your place.
LOL....Pittsburgh is world ranked as well its exactly where Philadelphia in 2008 and moving up just as Philly is only Pittsburgh is moving up faster......if World Rankings even matters

City of Pittsburgh produces a higher GDP than the City of Philadelphia. City of Pittsburgh has more jobs per square mile than the city of Philadelphia. Pittsburgh's economy is expanding at a significant rate as well its migration is the 3 best in the Northeast. Numbers Philadelphia don't put up.

The city of Philadelphia ONLY accounts for 22% of the Philadelphia Metros GDP, throws into questions how important is Philly to its own Metro? Where as city of Pittsburgh is well over 90% of Pittsburgh metros GDP.

So much that "WORLD Ranking" is doing for Philly.

So comparing Pittsburgh to Philadelphia is not Lancaster to NYC.....They're equals in PA government, anyone with a clue of actual metrics outside of Raw population numbers clearly knows this.


Not trying to knock Philly, but just shinning some actual facts on your obviously "Flawed" analysis.
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Old 06-22-2012, 06:56 PM
 
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Please stop with this SF/LA comparison in regards to Pitt/Philly.

If anything it would be more like Fresno/LA
Oh Rainrock...yes our resident Philly homer always trying to marginalized Pittsburgh as some 2nd class stereotypical wasteland and prop up Philadelphia as some global powerhouse without a shred of facts to actually back anything up...

Typical
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Old 06-22-2012, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA
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Due to Pittsburgh's location it is at a distinct disadvantage concerning trade and commerce thus the reason why it is considered a medium sized city not unlike Oklahoma city in size and importance.
It would make a nice self sustaining suburb of Philly if magically it could be moved from it's rural location to where Pennsylvania's wealth and power are concentrated.


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LOL....Pittsburgh is world ranked as well its exactly where Philadelphia in 2008 and moving up just as Philly is only Pittsburgh is moving up faster......if World Rankings even matters

City of Pittsburgh produces a higher GDP than the City of Philadelphia. City of Pittsburgh has more jobs per square mile than the city of Philadelphia. Pittsburgh's economy is expanding at a significant rate as well its migration is the 3 best in the Northeast. Numbers Philadelphia don't put up.

The city of Philadelphia ONLY accounts for 22% of the Philadelphia Metros GDP, throws into questions how important is Philly to its own Metro? Where as city of Pittsburgh is well over 90% of Pittsburgh metros GDP.

So much that "WORLD Ranking" is doing for Philly.

So comparing Pittsburgh to Philadelphia is not Lancaster to NYC.....They're equals in PA government, anyone with a clue of actual metrics outside of Raw population numbers clearly knows this.


Not trying to knock Philly, but just shinning some actual facts on your obviously "Flawed" analysis.
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Old 06-22-2012, 07:14 PM
 
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The only thing Pittsburgh outshines Philly in is less crime. Philly crushes Pittsburgh in about every other department.
Theres that "fact-less Philly Booster" syndrome again ....Can you back this up with some actual facts this time

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Let's look at the most important thing... GDP

Pittsburgh is $115,752 mill and the 22nd in the United States.

Philadelphia is $346,932 mill and 7th in the US
YES LETS LOOK AT GDP...As I've already outlined

of Philadelphia's 347B GDP...only 78B actually comes from inside Philadelphia county....meaning only 22% of Philadelphia Metro's GDP comes from the City.

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Glad to see the improvement and forecasted improvement for the Burgh, though will still be 1/3rd the size overall but very impressive growth, esp on per capita nearly matching that of Philly in 20 years time and closing the per cap gap quickly.

On Nutter I posted the OFFICIAL BEA data, the correct information, no worries just wanted to make sure you were using the official results.

According to this source here is the GCP by county for the metro so Philly (city alone) according to this is shown to be below the entire Burgh Metro
Locate Your Business to Greater Philadelphia with assistance from Select Greater Philadelphia

Philly 78.2 Bil
Montco 63.3 Bil
Bucks 32.5 Bil
Chester 32.6 Bil
Delaware 25.1 Bil
New Castle 50.3 Bil
Burlington 22.2 Bil
Camden 21.5 Bil
Gloucester 11.0 Bil
Mercer 26.3 Bil
Salem Not Listed in link
Berks PA (Not from this link is 28.2 Bil)

Note this link for the Philadelphia planning commision excludes Berks but includes Mercer County

than the state

Pittsburgh's 116B GDP....95B comes from within the City of Pittsburgh easily calculated by the simple fact that 1 in every 4 jobs in the Pittsburgh Metro is located within the city of Pittsburgh.

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Most people don't realize how much our region's economy depends on the city of Pittsburgh. More than one of every four jobs in the Pittsburgh metro area is located in the city.

Read more: Regional Insights: Pittsburgh's a national player in jobs per square mile but needs more population - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Again city of Pittsburgh has more jobs per Sq Mile than City of Philadelphia.

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And the city would probably rank even higher if it weren't so small; Pittsburgh ranks sixth in the country in jobs per square mile, behind only Boston, Miami, New York, San Francisco and Washington, D.C.

Read more: Regional Insights: Pittsburgh's a national player in jobs per square mile but needs more population - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

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IDK why you hate Philly so much and you can't be proud of having such a powerful city/metro within your state.
I don't hate Philly....But again...I'm SICK and TIRED of Philly Boosters trying to marginalize Pittsburgh as some insiginificant 2nd Class City, not on a level as Philadelphia when there's simply no data to support those claims outside of simple population figures.

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Old 06-22-2012, 07:16 PM
 
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Due to Pittsburgh's location it is at a distinct disadvantage concerning trade and commerce thus the reason why it is considered a medium sized city not unlike Oklahoma city in size and importance.
It would make a nice self sustaining suburb of Philly if magically it could be moved from it's rural location to where Pennsylvania's wealth and power are concentrated.
LMAO....ok you've just relegated yourself to nothing more than pure Philly booster with NO ACTUAL FACTS TO BACK UP YOUR CLAIMS.

You join the ranks of our friend Rainrock....
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Old 06-22-2012, 07:37 PM
 
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LMAO....ok you've just relegated yourself to nothing more than pure Philly booster with NO ACTUAL FACTS TO BACK UP YOUR CLAIMS.

You join the ranks of our friend Rainrock....
Who cares what some dude from Allentown thinks.
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Old 06-22-2012, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA
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Mr Sandusky,

Please explain how you are able to take time out of your busy trial schedule to even reply here.
At least we have stopped you from molesting any more boys.


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Are You mentally Retarded?

Its called travel. I advise traveling to different cities, and get out of eastern PA for once. Typical Leigh Valley retard.
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