Coronavirus in Massachusetts (Gill: border patrol, credit report, to buy)

[lrfox]

Originally Posted by GeoffD

On-topic:
I just bought another 40 N95 masks on the 3M site through an authorized reseller. You have to tell them it’s for industrial work. I put down marine worker. Plausible since I will be painting the bottom of my boat using an N95 mask. It was a bit cheaper there than on the evil Bezos site and unlikely to be a knockoff.

A buddy of mine owns an autobody shop and I got mine through him at wholesale. They're marketed as "automotive" masks, but they're the same thing. Back in May 2020, his mother's office (she's a nurse at a small private MD's office) couldn't get medical N95s, so they got the automotive ones marketed as medical. I've used them for years to scrape the bottom of my boat and paint.

[OutdoorLover]

Originally Posted by Amontillado

It is worth looking at, but it's pretty elementary to observe that the period "after the vaccine" is the same as the period "after the pandemic". Or really, "during the pandemic", since it's very much still happening. And the indirect results of Covid-19 are showing up all too often--like worsening drug abuse and mental health issues. I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are heart problems too. Plus everything is worse because lots of people postponed medical treatment when we were all in lockdown.

Of course we should be willing to hear about problems caused by the vaccines, if evidence appears. But just saying we have vaccines and problems, so it must be true that one causes the other--that's not logical.

Covid-19 is known to cause myocarditis, arrythmia, and more. Here for example is a recent review where they were looking at fatal cases and found post mortem: "Main cardiac pathological findings were cardiac dilatation, necrosis, lymphocytic infiltration of the myocardium, and small coronary vessel microthrombosis" - none of which is good.
See: "Myocardial Pathology in COVID-19-Associated Cardiac Injury: A Systematic Review"
https://www.mdpi.com/2075-4418/11/9/1647/htm

[GeoffD]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

Did you attend school here in MA (elementary, secondary, or college)? Or any of the 50 states, for that matter? If so, please consider yourself a "serf" too, since you had to get subjected to probably over a dozen vaccines already. And yes, had to submit proof thereof, in order to enroll.

Serf? Not here. We’re a narco-syndicalist commune
— Monty Python movie quote

[Amontillado]

OutdoorLover--well yeah, but the claim was that the vaccine might cause heart problems, rather than Covid itself. I'm skeptical about that idea, and it's becoming clear that the pandemic has caused a lot of health problems even for people who haven't had the disease. Rushing to blame the vaccine is very foolish, but it's worth keeping up the message that this illness can cause lasting harm, even if you survive.

One side effect of the pandemic is that some of us are becoming super-spreaders of crazy ideas! I suppose it comes from the feeling of powerlessness that we've all had. It might feel good to come up with some nutty false claim, and even if you don't really believe it, it could be a pleasant feeling just to spread the idea around. It might be a way to feel a little more important when we have hardly any options to make things better.

[OutdoorLover]

Originally Posted by Amontillado

OutdoorLover--well yeah, but the claim was that the vaccine might cause heart problems, rather than Covid itself. I'm skeptical about that idea, and it's becoming clear that the pandemic has caused a lot of health problems even for people who haven't had the disease. Rushing to blame the vaccine is very foolish, but it's worth keeping up the message that this illness can cause lasting harm, even if you survive.

One side effect of the pandemic is that some of us are becoming super-spreaders of crazy ideas! I suppose it comes from the feeling of powerlessness that we've all had. It might feel good to come up with some nutty false claim, and even if you don't really believe it, it could be a pleasant feeling just to spread the idea around. It might be a way to feel a little more important when we have hardly any options to make things better.

Yes, I wasn't writing in opposition to what you wrote, I was trying to reinforce the point.

[thebruiser500]

Not sure I understand the decision to move my comment to this thread instead of having its own.

The introduction of covid shot passports is the biggest news around. Going to completely change how we understand life. "Want to buy food for your family? Show me your papers."

Is the idea that this is a containment thread? And no matter how awful or disgusting things get here, regardless of what awful corruption the government and mob brings down upon us in the name of covid, it gets buried in here?

Lol at the people in this state.

[redplum33]

Originally Posted by thebruiser500

Not sure I understand the decision to move my comment to this thread instead of having its own.

This is where your comment belongs.

[tribecavsbrowns]

Originally Posted by htfdcolt

Did you attend school here in MA (elementary, secondary, or college)? Or any of the 50 states, for that matter? If so, please consider yourself a "serf" too, since you had to get subjected to probably over a dozen vaccines already. And yes, had to submit proof thereof, in order to enroll.

I differentiate between one-time shots taken mostly when I was very young, and a program of semiannual (or even more frequent) shots taken as an adult under threat of losing my job/social life/assets. You don't, because you're not arguing in good faith.

[rach5]

Is nobody thinking that we are a joke - the world is confirming dozens of cases all over, contact tracing, finding community transmission (ie no links to travel to Africa) and we still haven't confirmed a single one? How can we not be leading with this? Of course, since Biden wants to just do more of the same - vaccinate, boost, and develop a new vaccine if necessary, I guess identifying Omicron quickly doesn't really matter.

[thebruiser500]

Originally Posted by redplum33

This is where your comment belongs.

I guess if you want to cover the fact that some of the people of Massachusetts and their thugs in government are trying to enforce an SS like show-me-your-papers system. Then yeah. Bury the news inside a massive never ending containment thread.

For people who like being free citizens though and not living in a police state it is a big issue worthy of highlighting.